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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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8 Years Of Storage Ta Is Out

hi i am brand new here. i live near brampton and have a 85 trans am ws6. its been sitting outside for 8 years and looks like new. i am suprised by the condition of the car. it has 130 000 klms on it with original paint.
i am hoping to put a 86 corvette engine in it with a aluminum intake and carb. the neat thing about 85 is there is no egr, no air pump, and no computer. it would be nice to find a lt1 or ls1 but i think that might be hard to find or do cheaply.
i will give a link to my pictures of the car soon on this post.

anyone here done a lt1 in a third gen?
what parts do i need to make my 350 into a 383?
should i use 400 rods or 350 rods?
just want simple instructions thanks
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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Nice lookin car! Welcome to the site!
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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not a bad looking car. you said you just took it out of storage. for the winter?
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after i got the 8 years of **** off it
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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no i have not driven it for 8 years. its just been sitting on blocks.
its been a really long time. i have been into 4 wheelin and import streetracing for the last three years. my 93 civc si did 12.9 109 with a stock prelude engine no spray stock tire. with the spray it killed alot of low 12 cars on the street. i now want to get back into the f-body stuff.
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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285 40 17 's . should help with any traction problems.
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still original paint.
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Yeap traction can be tough. I'm thinkin of getting some 295/50/16 from BFG. $175 a piece. Not to bad for Canadian funds.
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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see if you can find out the overall diamiter of the tires. make sure it does not affect your gear ratio.
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Actually right now the car has 245/50/16 on it w a 3:73 gear. This is my Monte SS i am talking about. They are only 26" in diameter. I need a bit more then that. for traction reasons. The tires I mention the 295's are 27" in dia. which will put my VSS back on track. Overall this help the car, traction and speed wise.
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 10:58 PM
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welcome to the funny farm.......

anyway...thats a nice TA you got yourself there. does it still have the 305 in it?
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 01:16 AM
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i live in the north west corner of brampton. yup it still has the carbed lg4 engine in it. my fathers vette burned in 87 so i have that 86 vette engine to build up to put in it. has aluminum heads.
have the clean ownership for the vette as well as the rear half of it for sale. thanks for the warm welcome. well i still have the 11 second civic and a mid 13 second winter civic. just missed havin a v-8 rumble. 8 years is too long to let a car like that sit.
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There's an outstanding BSflag on the civics.

You are not running 12s with a stock NA civic. Please rephrase with the truth.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 01:46 AM
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the sad thing is it is fairly straight forward to get a civic in the high 12's.

i bought a jap spec h22a with a msb4 lsd tranny. cost about 3000

the civic with the engine swap should weigh around 2000 pounds

thats it. you doin 13's. you have to play with it a bit to get high 12's but its a no brainer. im sorry to be the one to tell you this. things have changed alot in the last two years. i was beating mustangs, irocs, transams, ram air ss, ferraris, all summer in woodbridge. i even beat a 600 hp supercharged corvette when i used my spray three times in a row. yup it was a good summer.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 05:44 AM
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Jay my buddy owns a import shop in Barrie and he has a civic hatchback that runs a 14.1 with no traction spinning all the way to third. All he done was put in a B16A motor a 3 full exhaust from the header and upgraded the computer.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 07:24 AM
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Welcome to the board. Nice looking car. Just curious though, who would put a GTA badge on an original paint TA?

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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 08:54 AM
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Welcome aboard. I like the rims!
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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Welcome to the board! Jay, I have to believe him because my buddies brother has a civic with a jap spec type R engine"stock", weighs 1600 pounds and is running in the 12's. He took it up to St. Thomas this summer. Last I remember, I saw his trophy for fastest import "stock" or something like that. He won the DSM us versus them shootout too. Remember Jay, thats 180hp to the wheels of a 1600 pund car!
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Welcome to the board. Nice looking car. Just curious though, who would put a GTA badge on an original paint TA?
I thought the 85-87 TA's all were two-tone as well?
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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yeah...maybe civic should be a banned word on here too... ....let go of the **** cars.......your now a man.....
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The civic is far from stock... as came out in the "Who is faster than" thread.
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I agree to disagree to agree The car is not stock but that engine itself regradless unmodded can do 12's. But that civic is not stock.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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As I recall dropping in a whole different engine kinda removes ANY car from the stock category...

Running a prelude engine in a civic, even if it is a stock prelude engine is like us dropping in a nice chevy big block in a f-body...

Sure we can do it with the cash flow, but isn't the great thing about our cars the fact we "build it up from stock"?

To each their own I guess...
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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RCBH has arrived remember no TSR #$%@ I would love to know what kind of rims those are, great dish on them.
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"Jay my buddy owns a import shop in Barrie and he has a civic hatchback that runs a 14.1 with no traction spinning all the way to third. All he done was put in a B16A motor a 3 full exhaust from the header and upgraded the computer."

yes 14.1 would be a common time for crx with b16. 92 up from japan there was a worm gear lsd that came in some of the trannys. i have the worm gear lsd in both my civics. makes a huge difference in traction in these little cars. no honda in north america ever came with a lsd in the tranny.

"Welcome to the board. Nice looking car. Just curious though, who would put a GTA badge on an original paint TA?"

back in 1989 when i put the gta badge on the car i was kinda young and i realy liked the gta. i also had the gold gta rims on the car. remember i have not even looked at the car in 8 years.

"Welcome aboard. I like the rims! "

the rims are from belgium and where made for a porche 911 turbo
i had them drilled for the ta. 17 x8.5 front and i think 17x9.5 in the back. i like the gta rims and i like 17 inch rims and tires so it was perfect for me. im hoping to get some weld drag light rims off a friend for dirt cheap for racing next summer

"I thought the 85-87 TA's all were two-tone as well? "

are you for real? no way they came in normal one colour. in 87 my friend had a burgandy 85 trans am.

"yeah...maybe civic should be a banned word on here too... ....let go of the **** cars.......your now a man....."

well i do love my trans am but i dont think it will ever go 250klm and be smooth as silk like my winter civic does. the 92-95 civic is just a better car. but i will never sell my trans am. i think i remember as a kid that it was cool when i would go 150klm in my trans am. mmmm times change

dont worry i have alot of respect for guys with third gen f-bodys. i love myn and will have it till im old and grey. imports are just for kicks but the f-body is for life.
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it was a hatchback civic not a crx
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"I thought the 85-87 TA's all were two-tone as well? "

are you for real? no way they came in normal one colour. in 87 my friend had a burgandy 85 trans am.

Sorry, not really up on my TA history. Always been more into the Camaro's. Usually most of the TA's you see are 2 tone, with GTA's being solid. I know Kevin87TA has a solid black one. Should have thought of that first
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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kevin just for kicks ill tell ya a funny story.

i was at a light with a ZX6R it was yellow and the guy had yellow leathers. i had my spray on just cause i was itchn that day. well we where side by side right up to 200klm. well he was about a car ahead of me the whole time. what a race. it was a 75 shot. this was on highway 10 in brampton north of bovaird.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Hey hey, REDHOODBLACKCIVIC isn't it???
The notorious civic from Torontostreetracing?
Welcome aboard, nice ride by the way..
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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hey thanks steve. ya i would rather talk about f-bodys then hondas any day. i get the feelin the guys here are more mature anyways.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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hey steve go check out the street racin part of this forum. i posted about my civic and i think i opened a can of worms. domestic guys just dont get it.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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You wanna sell me those GTA emblems? I'm serious.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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can you not just go and buy them at gm? man time flys
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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wanna meet up I want to see this civic I am at dixie/bovaird
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 05:30 PM
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you really stirred things up there
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Well i can see where there coming from.
A guy i work with, just sold his ex Mini racer.
It was completely gutted. Weighed in at 1400lbs and dynoed at 160hp and is not even close to the times your bragging about.
It just isn't that simple to get a civic that quick. And if you were the quickest in T.O. this summer, then we have a fully loaded, all seats, and bicycle racked civic up here that runs mid 11's. And he needs alot more than a stock Prelude engine to do that.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Hey ....Welcome

Hey ......Welcome to the Group ......i think the group is a better word for what we are .......Welcome ........Nice Car !!!!

Names ....Mark ....AKA ....Z-drr-Guy !!!!

Old Nov 18, 2002 | 07:57 PM
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remember what a car can do at the track and what a car does on the street is too different things. there are no foot wide bald drag slicks on the street. plus its not a drag car it has licience plates and is driven every day. i raced a 500 hp civic on the street and was on his bumper at the end of the 1320. if you cant get the power down on the street then what do you got? nothin.
the street is all about gettin your power down with a street tire. if our doin low 11's like the guy i raced with a foot wide bald drag slick at a sticky drag track your not gonna get times like that on the street. if you get high 11's with a bald drag tire and i get high 11's on a street tire who is gonna win on the street? somethin to think about.

ya ill meet up i dont mind. what do you mean i stirred things up here?
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Originally posted by 85 TRANSAM WS6
remember what a car can do at the track and what a car does on the street is too different things. there are no foot wide bald drag slicks on the street. plus its not a drag car it has licience plates and is driven every day. i raced a 500 hp civic on the street and was on his bumper at the end of the 1320. if you cant get the power down on the street then what do you got? nothin.
the street is all about gettin your power down with a street tire. if our doin low 11's like the guy i raced with a foot wide bald drag slick at a sticky drag track your not gonna get times like that on the street. if you get high 11's with a bald drag tire and i get high 11's on a street tire who is gonna win on the street? somethin to think about.

ya ill meet up i dont mind. what do you mean i stirred things up here?
Wow, the street racing rules are very well laid out where you live.

Here's my fav.....

"It's not how you stand by your car, it's how you drive your car" Or something.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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I would know just how much they race around here.. I can only hear them racing late at night by my place lol...

The fun part is around here A LOT of civics are randomly pulled over (the "special" ones) and cops have a field day rummaging through them. As I recall some new by-laws are in effect in the peel region in response to the street racing deaths this year...
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what do you mean i stirred things up here?
You are the biggest attention ***** since easyspeedcamaro. Actually you are much worse.
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I consider Easy as being more of an attention skank than *****. Anyone else?
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I meant he stirred up everyone on the street racing board. Dont worry guys I will volunteer myself and Slade to go for a ride in this civic. Sounds like it might be fun
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Whoa, that won't work..........ask any import guy, 2 passengers kills like 100hp.
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