I was driving home from work today and heard a blurb on the radio (AM 570), a news clip about pending "Anti Street Racing" legislation. If I understood correctly this was about to become law sometime soon.

What really caught my attention was when the discussion turned to nitrous and that the new laws included "severe" restrictions on the use of NOS in street cars. They didn't say what these restrictions were.

Anyone else hear this bizarre bit of news ?

adious,
RP.

 

No NOS in cars allowed?

Hmmm, maybe I'll just buy a Nitrous Works kit, then.

NAAWSS!

 

I can't say I heard the broadcast. But to my knowledge NOS has always been illegal on the street. Is here in the Niagara Region. I remember a guy getting busted for it at the local street drags here in Niagara Falls. They impounded his car and it cost this guy big $$ for the fine too, not sure on the exact price but I heard it was pretty hefty. All and all take out the bottle if your driving the streets, that way they can't charge you.

 

did you hear any info on the legislation?
I got followed around town for 10 minutes last week

 

Paul you didn't put one of those NOS stickers on your car did you??? J/K just playin. I too would like to hear more of this new legislation they have purposed.

 

no n.o.s sticker

 

I'm sorry I had to..Never again I promise.

 

it will be interestng to see what happens with this. i dont believe that nitrous should be used on the street, but i dont have a problem with people having it in the car if they run the car at the track as well. granted, its almost to impossible to keep people from not using nitrous on the streets if they have it installed in the car. perhaps forcing people to remove the bottles from their cars when they are driven on the street is the only way to prevent nitrous use on the streets.

i believe both racing and nitrous should be saved for the track. to many innocent people are dying in street races.

 

I agree Brad a couple of stupid people have given guys like us who take it to the track a bad name

 

the cops in some regions impound cars if they believe it's used in street racing...

one of these days I'm gonna get a pic of these busts.. seen 2 already...

the street racing legislation has been proposed before, but only within the last few years has some proponents to the idea have voiced their backing for it...

 

I had a quick look at the Ontario Bills from April 2001 to present. The only changes pending for the HTA that I saw had something to do with emergency vehicles. Maybe I missed it but I don't think so.

Does anyone know if street racing is an HTA issue or criminal code.

What can happen will happen

 

I seen it on the news, they are cracking down on drag racing, tinted windows and racing enhancement devices.

If you are caught drag racing you get:

your liscenece suspended for 48hrs and your car impounded for 48hrs

all I have to say is **** you Fast and the furious

 

How do they decide what a racing enhancement device is.

 

thats a good question, George. other than something like nitrous oxide or real slicks, it would be hard to say that other mods are strictly racing equipment, because alot of mods help to make the car more effecient and stronger; which in turns results in better racing performance.

it will be interesting to see what they define as racing equipment. it will have to be strictly large external mods...there is no way they will be able to bust you for running a high lift cam, high compressio, or performance cylinder heads.

hmm...

 

Sounds like the government is gonna stick it to the enthusiasts again. Look at the crap gun owners have to go through. I sympathize with law enforcement and the efforts to get people to stop street racing, but when the government tells me I can't put this or that on my vehicle or that my car is too highly modified for street use(well, not my car) it pisses me off. Oh well I guess I'll have to stop modding my car because that wil be illegal, guess I'll have to start smoking pot because that will no longer be a criminal offense WTF

 

Legislations such as these sure will help what's already happened to the automotive industry already these past couple years .

 

Don't you think F&F was a response/commentary on our North American Culture rather than an instigator?

Personally I think this is the wrong approach... crack down on behavior not equipment. And build a track in K/W for frick's sake

I hope they do go bust crazy on street racers because they make the roads unsafe...but track's should always be legal and you shlouldn't have to trailor your car there.

my 2 cents

 

I don't like the anti NOS approach it shifts blame away from the true source. But the gov't is as usual incompetent and they show it by dumping on the many true enthusiasts as well as the few I-D-I-O-T-S who street race. The government is acting like a fisherman throwing out a net to round up a few fish that ends up catching the rest of us at the same time.

The (NOS) street racers I've seen are almost to a "T" the idiots with glittering lights and coffee can pipes and garrish decals and stubby hairs for beards who think flipping a switch at 3000rpm is racing while putting everyone else in danger is "...just part of the scene man".

They typically have no long term interest in cars nor engineering better systems for the track or street (this is MOST detestable). Their 'performance' purchases are neither investment nor hobby and they are quite willing to jeopardize anyone who shares their space for the sake of the thrill of the moment.

I have no sympathy for this particular species of driver. I think they ought to be put down as a mercy to others. It's too bad we are all getting caught in the same net.

my .02 cents worth,
RP.

 

Well said there Richard.

 

After 2 drag racing incidents in Mississauga netted 2 deaths the peel region cops went down hard using bylaws of cities as their means for "drag racing" enforcement.

Its not uncommon to find a civic being towed away in peel region after being stopped. Mind you this isn't your run of the line civics. They have the full deal, fart can, lights and reckless driving that the cops keep an eye out for. Odds are you don't get bothered by cops unless you are as flashy as those cars.

The areas I've spotted these "take down zones" are atypical street race strips. They have things in common, long straightaways, 2 or more lanes per direction and are near hang out zones.

Mavis area in Mississauga where the Krispy Kreme is has been targeted on a few occasions. I think the best site was along Hurontario ext to 401 a line of tow trucks with civics on the back of quite a few of them and at least 6 cop cars blocking the exit. I have a silver city just < km from where I live and low and behold a 6 lane road too that's relatively flat and fast. Its no surprise to me as I was coming home to find 2 tow trucks, 4 cop cars and 2 ***** cars there and a group of 8 guys standing out in the cold as cops searched their cars and eventually towed them.

Don't be premature to cast yourself in the lot with the ***** crowd when it comes down to the dragnet. I've seen actually a lot of good in recent months to cutting down on those dangerous types. It shows that despite the beauracracy, the police are not as stupid as the laws they sometimes enforce. I can also say that too since my sister joined the police force, I've met a few of her commanding officers and they know their stuff about cars and what they go after as a street drag racer and what kind of driver I am.

 

Actually man a nutbag in a Honda Civic with NAWZ darting through traffic is a lot more of safety hazord than someone sitting in the backyard making a BBQ smoking a dube.. So it makes sence that they decriminalize it. Is a guy minding his own business smoking a bit of herb really that big of a threat that he should be removed from society and thrown in jail? IMO they should throw some of these nutcase drivers in jail way before a lot of other people... Yes some people race responsibly but look at all these clowns that go in and out of traffic in some ****box that couldn't even corner itself out of a wet paper bag..

 

I have to agree here. Some of the young people out there that are all Fast and The Furious and stuff have no respect for themselves nevermind anyone or anything else. What is POT really. A weed, a plant. The only way POT makes a person a bad person is if they steal or hurt people to get their POT. Alcoholics have been doing this for years! But yet we still sell them more booze. But to get off the POT subject....It's all politics! As for crazy people with a car that is way off here. The real problem is society itself. People contradict themselves every time they open their mouths. As for street racing, well that too has been around longer then any of us here on these boards have. It will not stop, period. It will always happen as long as there is a challenge. And there is the problem! THe smart a$$ driver who thinks he/she is all that. Take it to the track!!!! The government wants to stop it. Then allow Municipalities to organize race nights. Or let each Region to build a track for them to show what they've got. Sorry for the long overdone speech but these topics just **** me off. "POT" and dumb people who illegally race their cars have nothing to do with each other. That is like saying you can't get stoned but yet this fella over here can get drunk and make a total a$$ of himself. Nope!!! If someone wants to mess their brain up by smoking dope then so be it. IF someone wants to get trashed and act like a idiot then so be it. But if some jackass goes ripping down my street and hits one of my daughters or family member....well look out! Because I just took the Law into my own hands, and trust me you don't want my 6' 240lb angry body comen after you! Keep it on the track and bust the little buggers who make the streets a dangerous place.
Thanks and sorry for the story.
Keiran

See I think I may have contradicted myself even. Damn it!

 

Right now I am content with how things are working out in peel region, @$$holes of the road are being removed at a decent pace or discouraged altogether. At the moment, they are discriminating based off their own personal experiences which puts the jerks on the spot and the occasional borla exhaust in peril from time to time.

Even after the law comes down, its still up to the police to enforce it and that comes down to personal discrimination on the officer enforcing the law. As long as f-body drivers keep to their words, keep it off the street and take it to the track, those officers will leave us alone. In 200000 kms of US and Canadian road in a span of 4 years I have only been pulled over twice for valid speeding charges on my part. I have never been bothered even though I occasionally rip wot runs here and there.

 

These losers that they are throwing on TV are not "Street Racers". They will never be "Street Racers" and they will never attend a "Street Race". These are the idiots that have made the owners of companies like Ractive and Akimoto very rich. These gimps that run in traffic on busy streets at 9pm on a friday night deserve what they get. It's just a shame that they often take someone with them. This is the media's latest chew toy and they're going to play it out.

Who has been to a real street race? I mean middle of nowhere, no BS, line'em up.......that stuff. I'm not trying to start a fight, i'm just curious.

 

I have, a couple of times (of course, aside from the odd stop-light battle).
Nearly all of the times I've done it were just my car and one other, in a deserted area, and I've never raced for more than $120CDN.

Lost that damn $120, too. Who knew an original '66 Chrysler 300 was so damn fast?

 

It's like everything else- a few retards ruin it for everyone else and then the government says "Hey! We could make some serious $$$ here by introducing new and improved fines!" And the parents applaud thinking "Yay! Now junior will be safe!" And the rest of us line up, bend over, and take it up the rear. Just like the new gun laws and just like the whole e-test thing. In the end, nothing ends up any safer, or any cleaner, because the retards who were breaking the laws in the first place will continue to break the laws and the honest people foot the bill.

That's my 2 cents and I don't even have nor want N.O.S. in my Z.

 

I have and it was a lot better than seeing hondas line up one after the other and run. I seen a tubbed nova raced a mustang with juice and it was a good race and there was money involved

 

I have been to lots of real street races..but it wasn't on some city street, or where alot of people would ever be. We don't reveal alot of the real racing grounds. I do not participate but have seen many cars who did. NO hondas or supras just american muscle. No NOS either I've seen street race where guys trailer their cars in. What's the point??? Street racing will always be there. Trouble is now days it is done where it shouldn't be!

 

Kaz, so your idea of "Street Races" doesn't include imports or "NOS"?

I get the impression that you guys think having a nitrous system installed is like carrying around a ziplock baggie full of plutonium in your back pocket. Why is that?

 

Well I wouldnt' say it that way no... Yes there have been imports there but no to many. AS for NOS I am debating on putting it into my Monte. NOS is very dangerous. I have seen this danger first hand. A pretty close friend of mine was running it. Had the bottle inside the car...something went terribly wrong. THe inside of the car went up in flames with him in the car. Actually let me rephrase that. "It BLEW up!" Picture your friend in a infurno and you'll get the idea. It wasn't a pretty site and he was badly burned. Now you can see why I find it dangerous...it IS! If you don't know what your playing with, then you shouldn't play with it. Most of these new street racers haven't got a clue...most of them anyway. Don't get me wrong there are some young kids out there that know a hell of alot more then me and you probably. I just wish they would keep it off the city streets. And somewhere, where only they can get hurt not innocent people walking down the street. Makes sense to me, and it is not alot to ask. Trouble is this new generation of street racer have no respect for anyone, including themselves. example: I am driving home after picking up my daughter from school on day.. 3:40pm two kids in crappy imports decide this street where the school is would make a great place to race. NOT!! they just missed takin out 3 very young children trying to cross the road. That is the type of racers that will someday either kill someone, or a guy like myself will get his hand on one of these little ratts and exterminate them Myself.. I don't hate all street racers. Just the ones with no common sense.

 

Like said, it would be funny if the law stated no NOS, yet you could just go out and buy an NX kit

 

/memory retrieval on

Canadian tire @ Finch and Weston..mmmm rusty 75 Camaro with a 2BBL and a cutout..lol

Victoria PKWY and Gordon Baker..good place too but too far from me..

many others

the two biggest that I used to go to..

I stopped when they send cops at crappy tire and MTO cops at the doughnut shop(where sportbikes meet) across the streets ..lol

Daz

 

why are you here?

Daz

 

excellent point, Daz

 

Auxbridge....

Thats where I remember my dad going all the time. Besides the track and sitting in the trailer while he was tinkering with the car, I remember going up there and sitting on these huge hills and watch the cars come flying at you. It was cool, cause you had the money involved and the walkie talkies...ya know? People on the hill call down to the racers and they are gone by the time the cops get there. Worked perfectly....well at least I thought it did. Don't remember where it was exactly....bummer

 

B/C I want to be and can.