if anybody has any hookups on e-test, PLEASE PM me.

I'll give more details in PM.

Thanks

In Ottawa willing to travel at this point, or deal through snail mail.

 

Good luck.Theyre really clamping down on the illegals.I know one person that paid $300 for his because he didnt have a choice..Its a good thing this is my last one

 

My last as well, but I need to find one.

By the way Happy B-day Daz, we're both today.

You don't know of any places, even around the T.O area do you? I'm willing to travel.

 

I just had to get a less then legal one, but it was my last time. I payed $200, so yea it ain't cheap. Oh yea and it may not be your last. Mine is an 85' and it had to get down this year. You have to go out on an etest. In others words, once you hit that 20, you need to get one.

 

i could hook u up with emission, cert,

 

What about the old hotrod clause?

Say you have a 400 or a 327 in there. Make some fake print-out that looks ligit saying your block# is something else. Just need an engine not originally offered in your model year car.

I used the hotrod for my last one with a 350 in an 86. They never even looked at the numbers on the block..although it is an LT1.

 

I went to the Crappy Tire in Kanata last spring and they were really cool about.
I told them that my car should be classified as a 'hot rod' or a 'grey vehicle', meaning that it was altered from its original state.
That changes the allowances for pollution.
They didn't check one thing to see if it was different. All I said was, 'see, here it has the Corvette badging on the valve cover...'
And they said perfect, a grey car it is...

That is the best way to go I think. I can send you a copy of my results showing what the MAX ranges will be.

Let me know.

Chris

 

Sure.

You can e-mail it to me at iroctheroad@netzero.com
or post it up here on turdgen.

 

I needed an etest for my 87 in nov 2004,knowing I would never pass with the car I have I just took it off the road for the winter.In jan of 2005 my neighbor told me to just go and buy a new plate of it and they wouldnt ask for an emission test,so I phoned around to the license bureaus here in cambridge and kw and was told that I would still need an emission test regardless.My neighbour then informed me that if I went to the license bureau in a small town between cambridge and brantford(pm me if you want to know which one)they would give me my new plate and a two year sticker.Thinking this was to good to be true off I went and sure enough its true!Buying a new plate is like starting over and I started over in 2005 which is an off year for emission testing my car.Its a loophole not many people are aware of and the first two license bureaus I called either wouldnt tell me about this or werent aware of it.The new plate was cheaper than an emission test and boy am I gratefull for the help of the license bureau in the small farming town,without it my car still wouldnt be on the road.

 

hey !! can I call you tomorrow around lunch about this?

 

Hi dante yeah sure call me around lunch.

 

That's not really a loophole- but an MOT/Franchise clerk's oversight- and it's not supposed to work this way.

Yes, when a new plate is put on a car it "resets" the emission test schedule for that vehicle/plate. However, the e-test is still supposed to have been done in order to get the new plate. Obviously, the clerk in this particular office is either unaware of this, or doesn't care. The MOTC computer isn't intelligent enough to recognize that changing plates isn't the same as putting a plate on a vehicle that was say, parked for a number of years with no plates. Another note which might be pertinent- no MOTC office is supposed to be issuing multiple plates for the same vehicle unless the vehicle's previous plates were moved to another vehicle, or they were lost/stolen and a police report accompanies you to the MOTC office. Again, no police report required at this particular MOTC franchise means the clerk there is either unaware or doesn't care. Bringing in plates to exhange due to age/wear doesn't "reset" anything- unless, again, the clerk is totally out-to-lunch.

Again, this is not a "loophole", but an oversight- so you may not want to be too keen on telling everyone everywhere about it or it will likely soon disappear.


Perhaps we can surmise from all this is that the MOTC license system really doesn't give a crap about/track e-test results- only what the clerk at the counter types in the keyboard. If anyone has a friend at an MOTC franchise- maybe we can find out for sure.


The only thing that is totally legitimate/legal under the HTA/MOTC regulations that you can "get out of" with a vehicle having expired plates for months or years is a re-certification. As long as the car was legal beforehand and the plates expired or were stolen, the car can be re-plated without a new vehicle certification (i.e. "Safety") like would be required when the vehicle changes ownership.

 

so you are telling me that because my license plates were stolen last year, i dont need to get an etest because of this? and i will just be given my sticker (i got a new custom license plate...iroc2nv was stolen)..

im just gonna get an etest just in case..

iroc2nv

 

Thats true... but then when you go to write an insurance policy, 90% of companies will ask you for a safety check on a vehicle that old. If anyone is contemplating trying this one make sure you keep fire/theft on the parked vehicle so you don't have to write a new policy when you go to take it out again.

 

Read my post again:

2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence.

"However, the e-test is still supposed to have been done in order to get the new plate."


Yes- you need an e-test.

 

What is stopping you from passing an e-test anyway? It usually isn't that big of a deal even if you have to put a cat on the car. Even several radical cars I know about passed with flying colours. I think it's a myth myself that a performance engine can't run clean. Not as clean as stock but not anywhere close to the limit either. Unlikely you will pass without a cat. I tried 3 times and had to put em on.

I might be able to arrange something. West end of Toronto. Will cost at least 200+.

 

That sounds pretty messed up considering the e-test is linked to the year of vehicle manufacture/regrestration renewal date and not the plate.

Supposed to be done again if it's passed 90 days from the test and transfered to a new owner which would include new plates. Not sure about the 90 days, might be a bit more but I am sure about the rest.

 

I don't think it's 90 days, the test is valid for 1 year. I've used tests from previous vehicles owners at least 9 months old.

Do you guys still want the hotrod allowables posted? I have them from 2 years ago and will get more soon. My last test EVER for the IROC is coming soon. Going to wait past my birthday in May this time to get tested, so it will be good after the vehicle turns 20 next year...finally.

 

I'm still looking for am e-test I know Paul is in need of one too, if anybody can help us out.

 

Sorry Guys. I did look into it and the guy that was doing it is now out of business. Not related to cheating the system. Anyway, I'll talk to my mechanic tomorrow and let you know from there. Once upon a time last year when I was going through this panic too, I spoke with him about it and he said he could get it done - for big bucks. I don't know what big bucks is? I don't know where, but its local anyway.
I'll post again tomorrow aft. - hopefully with good details.

Chris

As an afterthought...when I bought my 91, I still had my 83 in running order. I almost, because I was sure I would fail the test, decided to not register the new car and switch out the VIN's from the 83 to the 91. Crazy I know, but unless the cops were 3rd gen enthusiasts, I doubt they would be able to tell. That was my thought anyway. Then I thought about insurance, and my 83 was probably only worth about 3k - whereas the 91 is upwards of 10k with all the goodies.

So that could be a way around it...

 

I almost did the exact same thing.

 

It's been a thought, but too much work. I'll drive with no sticker before i attempt to swap VIN's

 

Wasn't able to get any information on the emissions testing. My mechan said he didn't know anyone...I thought he told me last year he did. My mistake I guess.

Sorry about getting your hopes up. I'll keep asking around though.

 

I'm pretty sure i'll be able to pass once the car is running properly. I have 2 new cat cons and I always have my secret weapon to fall back on

 

Dave, just throw a high-flow cat on and test it, it won't be as bad as you think. You can lean out the carb or screw around with other methods - Paul's weapon being 1 - . My co-worker has a 5.0 with work done, and a Demon carb, Cambell's played with it and made it pass in under an hour legit.
Just throw it on, it costs dick all to re-test, and it will give you an idea where your at now. You may be surprised. High-flow cats cost next to nothing HP wise until you get up into 500+ HP, even then the loss is very little, nothing you would ever notice.

 

I only have one vehicle that needs an e-test at this time out of a few but none the less i wanted to ask this question cuz i was about to buy an 87 camaro earlier this year. What else is affected when you brand ur car as a "HOT ROD". Wouldnt that shoot ur insurance through the roof??? Im a teenage male, and both my cars so far are 2 door black, with v8's in them. Im sure an added "HOT ROD" to that would skyrocket the insurance. Any experience with this at all?

 

Hotrod is only for the etest, gives higher allowables for the test and NO visual except gas cap. Has nothing to do with anything else at all. I've used it twice.

 

the plate thing worked for me. It was 4 years since I needed an etest.

 

I didn't have to etest my 85 last year when i got it on the road