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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 05:20 PM
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L98 Heads w/o L98 plug angle??????

I have a 1987 Trans Am 5.7 TPI motor. Here's the number on the heads: 14101083

I just figured they were L98 style plugs. AFR tells me that L98 style plugs are angled. Mine appear to be straight. So what's going on here?
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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The vette L98 heads have angles plugs. You have an iron headed L98 like came in every other f-car, which has straight plugs.

But IIRC, you'll get the best plug clearance with heads with the L98 style angled plugs vs. regular angled. Straight plugs obviously suck.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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I've never noticed any problems with my straight plugs. What's the problem with straight plugs in a thirdgen?

I've never seen angled plugs to compare.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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Straight plugs put the spark plugs in bad spots with thirdgen headers. Makes getting a socket on some of them impossible, or pretty damn close. Angled plugs put the plugs in a much easier spot to get to.
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 02:36 AM
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which would be better on TES headers, angle or straight?
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Angled plugs look like gravy with SLP headers IIRC.

With TES, because of the dumb routing on the passenger side, i have no idea how it would work. But the driver's side should still be easer.
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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I had aluminum L98's with TES headers and the plugs weren't horrible to get to. Not a walk in the park though.
You have to get some from underneath with a box end wrench, still went fast though. I didn't have to make any special tools, and this was with reg length AC plugs.
My AFR 190s have L98 angle plug location also and about the same as above.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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Thanx for the info Ed and Fake.

Could you guys help me decide which headers I should buy then for the AFR190's L98 angled plugs. Ive read some threads about 1 3/4 might be too big for some applications and 1 5/8 might be too small for others. Im pretty much building my car to have monster torque at the low end. Ill be using the ZZ9 cam with the heads.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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If i was buying new headers for a 350, i wouldnt even consider 1 5/8 as an option myself. Any slight loss in extreme low end torque with 1 3/4 is far outweighed by their gains across the entire useable powerband
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 05:30 PM
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Agreed, forget the 1 5/8.
1 3/4 won't be too big for your setup.
Chances are, fast won't be fast enough and someday you'd be looking to go with 1 3/4 anyways, I wish I would have started there.
As far as fit, I've also heard the the SLP headers are a great fit with L98 angle plug heads. Forget about TES; besides the small primaries and odd pipe routing, they have the primary/flange welds inside the primaries and the a.i.r. tubes stick way into the tubes also, not good for power. The opening is really only like 1 1/2 inch with the weld there. plus the the tubes are pushed in to make room for the header bolts wich also sucks.
So for shorties I'd look to the SLP 1 3/4.
If you really wanted 1 5/8, check out MAC's website, they have a nice set that could be an alternative to SLP's.
For your stated goals, long tubes aren't the choice.
good luck
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