Guys I Really Need Some Cam Help
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Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
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Guys I Really Need Some Cam Help
I posted this question but havent gotten any responses, i have a 388 cid with 8.5 compression, im gonna spray it, i want to put it under my 86 tpi with a cam i already have purchased for the prodject, 236/230 624/620 on a 114, what kind of computer issues am i gonna have? what kind of probs with running etc. , have th350 behing it with a 3500 stall , but dont want took much computer issues, is there a better cam that still has descent lift but smaller duration out there? or can i make this billet hydraulic roller i have work?
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Take a read at that thread. That's an awful lot of lift for that given duration. Valve train wear will be at a high.
Take a read at that thread. That's an awful lot of lift for that given duration. Valve train wear will be at a high.
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Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
Engine: 408 LS1 w/ 2 stage
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ok, well i read that thread and it gave me some interesting points, i failed to mention i am running gm fastburns with 2.08/1.65's with springs good up to 650 lift, the heads i have flowed 310 int/ 218 exh @600 lift. from what i know they are pretty good even for fastburns, my main ? is what kind of computer and running issues am i gonna have?
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a stock 1986 TPI ....with them cam specs . You do realize that intake setup runs out of air at 4800 rpm's right ? If your plan is that stock TPI .... computer problems arent what you should deal with first . It's going through a MAF correct ? A stock one flows around 450ish CFM . YOu need more than that I am guessing for that setup . What's the topend on that cam ( rpm's) I bet its way over 4800 rpms.
Call compcams .....tell them what you want to do ...they will give you a cam for what you want
Call compcams .....tell them what you want to do ...they will give you a cam for what you want
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It will run out of air sooner than that.
My 355 w/ TFS heads runs out of air at right at 4K. W/ the added air requirements of the 383, you may be lucky to get that far.
My 355 w/ TFS heads runs out of air at right at 4K. W/ the added air requirements of the 383, you may be lucky to get that far.
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Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
Engine: 408 LS1 w/ 2 stage
Transmission: Turbo 350
Axle/Gears: 3:73,3850 lbs , best of 9.92 @ 138
so do yall guys suggest i change intakes? maybe the hsr or the tpis lt1 style or what do yall suggest? what intake gives the most air? is there a different maf system that can be used?
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For the most part, any aftermarket intake will be sufficient. Maybe even the LT1 conversion. Of them, not sure which would be better. Probably a shorter runner design such as the Stealth Ram or Super Ram (I think, I may be getting them all confused).
A cam like that would definitly favor a short(er) runner, though.
Try a search, if you haven't already. Get a feel for what kind of combos people are running with what and the results they are getting.
A cam like that would definitly favor a short(er) runner, though.
Try a search, if you haven't already. Get a feel for what kind of combos people are running with what and the results they are getting.
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Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
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yeah that is kinda why i made this post, want any of yalls feedback from people who have been there done that and had issues, so pretty much i can get by with stock ecm but am gonna have to maybe size down cams and get a better intake later, i was already thinking this cam might be a little much , i was thinking of calling comp and trading it out with something smaller with lift around 510-540 and duration under 220 on both sides.
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Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
Engine: 408 LS1 w/ 2 stage
Transmission: Turbo 350
Axle/Gears: 3:73,3850 lbs , best of 9.92 @ 138
yeah the tpis system is 895$, i think hsr manifold and fuel rails with regulator is like around 500$, i guess ill size down the cam, get it in the car under the tpi then see what happens and pick after that, i wonder how bad the tpi will run under nitrous?
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Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
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Transmission: Turbo 350
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coated weiscos, 30 cc dish for 8.5 to 1 compression, 6 inch manley racemasters, tfs steel crank, 4 bolt splayed and studded, it is a early 70's late 60's .010 block, made 650 hp on nitrous on the carbed setup but went with different pistons to do a efi turbo but got tired of all the crap to do the turbo so decided to put it under my tpi and spray it, but before i do i want to know what issues i will have, ill defineitely be prepared to upgrade the intake and probably will size down the cam
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After you decided which you want to do ( upsize the intake ...or downsize the cam ) Call up a cam company . Like compcams , they will give you a pretty good recomendation for a cam .....even go custom grind . I have a custom grind picke dout from them ....and they still charged me an of the shelf price . As said before though ...do a search ( I hate hearing that too but .... ) check out the setup's people are running .... thne decide how radical you want to go
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IMO, if you really want the most out of a setup, call Comp or someone and see what they can do as far as custom grinding goes. That gets you a cam taylored to YOUR setup.
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Car: 1986 Irocz- Houstons Fastest Street
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well the cam that i have is a comp cam that was a custom grind billet from them for the original turbo setup. i just want to get something that is more tpi ecm happy
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ok, well i called comp today and they gave me a couple of grind #'s to go with but they suggested i use a flat tappet cam so i dont have knock sensor issues. do you guys think that converting to a different intake would fix the lack of air problems or will i have to modify to a 730 ecm and ditch the maf? i would prefer to stick with the maf just for the simple fact of not having to convert if at all possible
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Originally posted by xtremeirocz
ok, well i called comp today and they gave me a couple of grind #'s to go with but they suggested i use a flat tappet cam so i dont have knock sensor issues.
ok, well i called comp today and they gave me a couple of grind #'s to go with but they suggested i use a flat tappet cam so i dont have knock sensor issues.
I wonder why the suggested going to flat tappet to get rid of noise( knock sensor issues)???? What is the rest of your setup ?
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