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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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335 stroker build-up

For all the people pissing on people about being stupid for even thinking about building a 335 stroker. ****ing BLOW IT OUT YA ***!
EVERYONE in there right mind knows that BUILDING A 350 based motor would be a more race type engine, MAYBE SOME JUST want to be a litte individualist and different like myself and build what every the hell they want. AND for the count, I do plan on eventually building a 383 stroker for my Iroc but right know I am still in college so money is tight. I want to through on some heads a cam and a 125 shot of nos for the "bet you cant grab that $100" acceleration.
***!!
Some people just try so hard to get everyone else to have the same thoughts that they do.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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I vote nay. I had planned on a 335 for pretty much the entire two years I've had the bird. I got a used stroker crank for 100 bucks, powder metal rods for 60, but when it came time to find 335 pistons, they just never showed up on Ebay. The cheapest place I found the stroker pistons was $250 a set. For the same 250, I got a 350 block freshly machined 30 over, align honed, new freeze plugs and a set of 383 pistons. Even trying to do a 335 cheaper than the "kits" I ended up doing a 383 for cheaper including buying the freshened block... Now I have a 305 block that I got for free sitting on the floor of my garage that I have to get rid of...
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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I see a coming soon.

Relax, I am sure most guys are just thinking with their wallets and want to see you get the most bang for your buck, if you want a 335 then build it.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Notwithstanding the ignorance of the post, nor your behavior here or in the other thread...

Exactly how is it individualistic when the outward appearance is the same as other SBCs?

If you are tight on cash than you should realize the value that spending another $50 for a 350 core would bring.

Furthermore, I already mentioned, it is not a 'race' thing it is an engineering thing. The shrouding problem doesn't disappear when you stroke it, it becomes more pronounced. You are stuck with the crappy design for that size unless you get a Ford block. Do you read all the posts in your threads, or only react to the ones either opposing your view or that you find are 'putting you down'? There was some good info in that thread.

Then again, it's your money, which is allegedly 'tight'. Maybe you might want to address anymore issues in your other thread>https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=290134
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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its individualist because you are doing something you want to, NOT what everyone else think you should do
THATS HOW?
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Then why ask and not just DO?
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by KamikazeIroccy
its individualist because you are doing something you want to, NOT what everyone else think you should do
THATS HOW?
Um...I've been really supportive of your project and all, but you did post asking what people thought.

If you're not emotionally braced for feedback that doesn't agree with your beliefs, asking for it is a bad idea.

Now go build that bad boy
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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it would be a pretty cool to see something different!
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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I want feedback but on my actually question which was what do you think of my set-up< Not do you think I should build a 350 or 335.
I asked cuzz obviously I want to see others opinion. I was trying to see it if was worth it because if not i would put 125 hp shot of nos on it and build my 383 stroker which I am building.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Dude, put a 3.8 V6 GN engine in there and be really individualisticccccc.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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hell yeah it would
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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i'm all about building the 305 to the brink. but if i had to do it all over again, i'd have built something larger. i spent about the same amount of money building my 305 as i would have building a 350. mine is faster than most 305's, and still has potential to be even faster, but to stroke the 305 would be shear stupidity. "different" doesn't win races. power does. you can build a 334 for the same cash as the 383 and the 383 will ALWAYS be faster.

since i have a solid shortblock already, i am going to get as much out of the 305 as possible. but as soon as she blows, 350"+ is going in.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Go nuts, no reason why you shouldnt do something different. i my self was going to build a 4.1 stroker out of a 3.8, unfortunatly i am no longer alowed to stor parts cars.....
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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I do plan on eventually building a 383 stroker for my Iroc but right know I am still in college so money is tight.
Can you explain how building a 335 is going to be fine on your budget but not the 383? Your puzzling me...

For all the people pissing on people about being stupid for even thinking about building a 335 stroker.
They get pissed on because the majority of them are kids who start rambling about their plans, never get anything done, and seem to think that the laws of physics are going to change for them just because they want to prove people wrong. I'm not saying this is what you are doing, just pointing out why people get pissed on for this.

If you want to be individualistic and build a 335, then do it. When your done, show pictures, and talk about your experiences. Until then, people aren't going to show much respect because it feels like we go through this once a week, each time with someone new.

Some people just try so hard to get everyone else to have the same thoughts that they do.
Thats because it will cost more to build, require more attention to detail, and is counterproductive to the very goals people generally start with.

The only problem with a 305 is its bore size. You'll get shrouding problems with any decent heads due to the small bore. Having a 4.0 bore 305 would be a totally different matter.

By the way, I think I missed something. You are asking for opinions on your setup, and I haven't seen any setup listed. All you said was 335.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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I suppose if you had a 400 crank and appropriate related parts laying around, it'd be no big deal if you were doing a rebuild. Then again, if you're doing a rebuild, why not rebuild a 350 instead? I've picked up cores for less than $200, for the cost of a rebuild thats not all that significant even for a college student. If you really need a different engine, 305's are dime a dozen. I'll bet you can find a good used motor for a few hundred (I have, twice) and just do that and forget the extra cost involved in 26CI. It wont make that much difference in power for what its worth anyway, port the heads or run a different cam and pick up that power instead.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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I suppose if you had a 400 crank and appropriate related parts laying around, it'd be no big deal if you were doing a rebuild.
Turning down the journals on a 400 crank to fit a 305 block might not be so cheap.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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enginekits.com charges $599 for the stroker kit and only an extra $200 to balance the engine. Their kits don't require machining the block and I can build it myself. That's how.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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i just pulled my engine from my car. its a 305 from an 87. 62k on it. oil changed every 2500 miles and stuff...could be an awesome core for your 335 if you want it. i went a 14.969 at 90.61 with a 2.067 60' and 2.73s with this engine. PM me if you want it.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by KamikazeIroccy
enginekits.com charges $599 for the stroker kit and only an extra $200 to balance the engine. Their kits don't require machining the block and I can build it myself. That's how.
Their kits don't require machining the block as long as your block already doesn't need machining for some reason. That kit is for a two piece RMS block too.

Coincidentally, their 383 kit is only $489. Hmmmmm....
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Apeiron
Turning down the journals on a 400 crank to fit a 305 block might not be so cheap.
Modifying the crank is still cheaper than buying a new crank, unless there is some $400 chinese version I havent seen yet.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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There probably is, if they can sell a kit with a new cast chinesium crank for $599.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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enginekits.com charges $599 for the stroker kit and only an extra $200 to balance the engine. Their kits don't require machining the block and I can build it myself. That's how.


And of course the 383 kit is so much more expensive!!! Good thing the 335 you can build yourself, because the 383 is a completely different animal to build!!!

Wow, haven't taken it apart yet and you already know it doesn't need machining? I take it your engine doesn't wear like everyone elses then?



I really like how you ignore everyones comment when its not convenient to answer. Makes it easier to deal with things huh?
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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it just needs to be bored. I talked to a rep. from that company and he told me that the crank would not need clearance smart guy
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Modifying the crank is still cheaper than buying a new crank, unless there is some $400 chinese version I havent seen yet.
Are you serious? SCAT stroker cast cranks are only $189 on EBay.
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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I dunno, thats pretty cheap but there is a place here that cuts 400 cranks for $50, and thats all they do, crankshafts.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by KamikazeIroccy
it just needs to be bored. I talked to a rep. from that company and he told me that the crank would not need clearance smart guy
Of course he did. And he'll also tell you that it will rev to 9k and make 4,327 ft/lbs of torque @ 1,400 RPM if that's what you want to hear to buy his kit.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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The cheapest place I found the stroker pistons was $250 a set. For the same 250

if that was the cheapest pistons u've found for a 335 u must not have looked very hard, i found a good set of hyperutectics from speed pro for $120 bucks, and i still have them i was gonna build a 336 for my bird but college does suck the money out of u. and i wanted to build this motor not so much for power but because i didnt want to be like everybody else i wanted somthing different.



if you wanna be like everyone else build a 350
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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I would build it as it would be a punchy street engine. A 335 can make more torque than a 350.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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A 335 can make more torque than a 350.
Yes, a well-built 335 can make more torque than a poorly-built 350. If you compare apples to apples though, that's not the case.
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