I have seen some big differentces in peoples base timing.... I just like to see what everyone is running and what mods have been done.

I personally had a 383 L98 with ported TFS heads, Lingenfelter. 219, 219 cam(straight up) and superram. For the life of me, I couldnt go past 8 degrees base timing or would get serious pinging and lose uper rpm power.....

 

I run 8-10. I don't recall now which, but I would have to look at the timing mark to recall.

I am running Edelbrock 6089 (64cc) heads and have a static compression ratio of 9.75:1. Premium gas. No pinging.

Although, I live at 2400 ft altitude, so that is a big difference.

I don't recall ever hearing a ping, but a scan shows the knock count, so it must be working.

What compression ratio are you running? What Prom?

Mark.

 

Timing set to 6º BTDC but then I have it adjusted via the MSD adjustable timing control to 9º BTDC.

Tim

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mines at 10 degrees

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Mine's at 10, but I live at 5500ft. I wonder if 12 or more would work? I do run premium....

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12 degrees, 88GTA, 5.7L, no mods except 200F coolant sensor, 89 octane fuel

 

8-10 on my L98 w/76cc Heads. I haven't really tweaked it yet (<2K on Motor), but I think it is close to there.

Fredzep 90 GTA 350 5spd

 

mine is set to a max of 2 degrees btdc...
here in wichita kansas we only have 91 octane...
not to mention my stock tpi is strangling the zz4... and i dont have an afpr...
hopefully when i get those two things straightened out i can bump it up a bit more

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12 degrees BTDC. Edelbrock heads, 60cc chambers. No problems running 93 octane. I'm pretty sure my pistons are dished 4cc's.

How did Tim get his computer to make the little degree thingie?

 

Mine is at 0 degrees. When I was at 6 degrees I ran a best of 14.2... then I dropped it down to 0 and it ran a 13.8

Going up in timing just made it worse...

0 degrees initial = 36 total at 3000 rpm's

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8*, what Ed Wright recommended

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im running 13 degrees, my mods are chip, exhaust, and afpr

 

8* BTDC w/ZZ4, ported TFS G1 heads, Crane 2032HR 214/220 cam, chip, 24# inj's, TPIS Bigmouth, ported plenum and SLP runners.

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I'm running Edelbrock heads on a new short block. I've determined the CR to be nearly 10.0:1. I've backed off my timing from 10*, to 8*, to the current 4* and I still get some detonation (I think it's lessening, though). I guess I'll keep backing it off until it quits. How far can I go? Should I have to go this far? Could my ADS chip be causing the problem? I think I still have my original chip, should I try plugging it in to see what happens?

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I'm new to these boards (and message boards in general) Anyway, I run mine at 10 degrees. I live in Miami and run 93 octane with no pinging.

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I run at 10 degrees with no problems, I've tried 8 and below with no good effect.

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Kevin, I think the real question is how much total timing people are running, not base timing, where total timing is the BASE TIMING + PROM ADVANCE. Unless everyone is running the same PROM timing curve, comparisons are apt to be meaningless and potentially misleading.

For instance my custom PROM commands a maximum of 30 degrees of advance at WOT. Add my base timing of 6 degrees and you get 36 degrees of total timing. FWIW, I've run @ base timing values of 4 and 8 degrees on a Dynojet and lost power compared to 6 degrees.

My car likes 36 degs total timing with the current heads, cam, and intake. Yours might like something different.

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im running like 44 or 45 total timing
id have to hook up the laptop to fond out for sure.
it varies with the dfi to RPM, but its 43, 44, 45 all over.
i got afr 190 w/65cc, superram, 224-236 @ .050 525 LIFT
runs fine on 89 and up gas.
goes 12.70`s and better on e.t. streets or slicks on motor

 

Hey, thats a very good point Mark.

 

I agree with Mark.

My Performance Resource chip has 36 degrees into it. So I ahd to set my timing at 0 degrees to get my total of 36 degrees at 3000.

Worked like a charm...

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I set my base timing by doing some test runs with the AutoXray scanner, and looking at the amount of retard (degrees) from the knock sensor. With 6 deg base I was getting 5 to 7 deg of KS retard, at 8 deg it was worse. BTW I am running 92 octane R/M fuel.

I backed it off to 4 deg, and now I am seeing only 1 or 2 degrees of KS retard. This gives me the highest TOTAL timing, around 35 deg TOTAL at WOT.

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