plenum and runner opinons..
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plenum and runner opinons..
just got done with my plenum and runners just wanted to see what opinons are on it. I also got a throttle body painted to match the runners with the tpi lettering polished.thanks
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
Looks pretty spiffy (except those scratches on the top of the plenum...)
I like the black runners.
I like the black runners.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
Nice job....polishing and porting my plenum,runners and manifold this winter...will post fihished job in the spring.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
u got sum more porting there!! looks good tho, u polished the plenum well, those scratches hurt lil... ur gona hate haveing to polish that plenum every couple of weeks and if u have a radiator line burst or leak on the polished part its gona look all white and nasty lol happened to me
and i would ditch those tiny small stock runners. these intakes look amazing with polished plenum and polished SLP's... like mine
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
Once it's polished, can you spray it with clearcoat? Does that protect the shine at all?
Just curious, I don't do stuff like this often...
Just curious, I don't do stuff like this often...
Re: plenum and runner opinons..
You can clearcoat, but it will affect the shine just a little bit. Clearcoat will also yellow on an engine sometimes. Then the only way to get it off is Airplane stripper, or a whole lot of sanding... again. The best way to prevent the yellowing is to try the clear somewhere where is inconspicous, run it, and if it yellows try another brand. If it doesn't shoot the whole thing. If you clear it you wont have to polish it, but the plenum stays fairly clean and only takes a few minutes to polish.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
the scratches arnt actually scratches i had sticky paper on the plenum to paint the black in between the plenum. it left marks on it but in that pick they look like scratches.....how much more can i port out of there? i have to go back and finish the sides anyway so I can port while at the shop.lmk thanks.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
im pretty sure u cant clearcoat a polish.... polish is synthetic/oil/wax based.... thats how it polishes.... its like car wax with very fine sanding qualities.... thats why when u polish it turns black and then has that mirror like shine. the polish will fade off over time... hence why its like car wax and u will have to polish it again and again and again.
i kno u cant paint wax... the clear wont stick to it. but u could try and prove me wrong..... also there is a better solution.... ZOOP seal i heard is great and its protects and keeps aluminum polished and clean for like 2 yrs. u should look into that
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u have to polish more around the TB openeing, i can still see some of the EGR walls in the bottom and sides, u gotta get that all out
i kno u cant paint wax... the clear wont stick to it. but u could try and prove me wrong..... also there is a better solution.... ZOOP seal i heard is great and its protects and keeps aluminum polished and clean for like 2 yrs. u should look into that
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u have to polish more around the TB openeing, i can still see some of the EGR walls in the bottom and sides, u gotta get that all out
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
should i be taking the beveled edge off of the plenum tb openings or should those stay?
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
You can clearcoat, but it will affect the shine just a little bit. Clearcoat will also yellow on an engine sometimes. Then the only way to get it off is Airplane stripper, or a whole lot of sanding... again. The best way to prevent the yellowing is to try the clear somewhere where is inconspicous, run it, and if it yellows try another brand. If it doesn't shoot the whole thing. If you clear it you wont have to polish it, but the plenum stays fairly clean and only takes a few minutes to polish.
http://207.97.241.136/PRODUCTS/PRIME...3/Default.aspx
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/polished/DSC04617.JPG
This is before wet sanding and buffing the clear to get the fine scratches out of the clear coat... (ohh ya custom TPI plenum top I did)
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/polished/DSC04619.JPG
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/polished/DSC04620.JPG
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/polished/DSC04623.JPG
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/polished/DSC04625.JPG
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
that turbo looks good lol, yea i guess the clear coat would matter.... but my brother had really bad luck with the POR15 clear.... it would turn yellow and peel off on basically everything he stuck it on... but we love the black P0R15... that stuff is amazing i even got there can of there 400 degree engine enamel.
that turbo makes me wanna put one on my car so bad lol.
the belveled edges.... are a mistake. u dont want them... u want to port it to the exact size of the TB openings straight back through the EGR walls.... there is def enough material for this... i did it on mine for the stock 48mm.... i got a 58mm ready for my HSR thats already ported for 58mm
that turbo makes me wanna put one on my car so bad lol.
the belveled edges.... are a mistake. u dont want them... u want to port it to the exact size of the TB openings straight back through the EGR walls.... there is def enough material for this... i did it on mine for the stock 48mm.... i got a 58mm ready for my HSR thats already ported for 58mm
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
were you using the regular por15 clear or that Glisten PC which is made for highly polished aluminum and chrome surfaces.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
um i believe he was using the POR15 clear.... but it wasnt on polished or chrome surfaces just bare metal... he took all the precautions tho, when ever we use the POR15 we do there recomended steps/temps, use the marine clean, then the metal ready then the paint. he did it right its just that the clear yellowed and flaked off.
i used the VTH or VHT high temp 900degree caliper paint on my SSBC force 10 calipers and that was clear... but it eventually turned a yellow color and flaked off as well. now i just dont clear anything lol.
i used the VTH or VHT high temp 900degree caliper paint on my SSBC force 10 calipers and that was clear... but it eventually turned a yellow color and flaked off as well. now i just dont clear anything lol.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
Ya I use to ave some clear powders that woul dturn yellow and I hated em. now I found one that doesnt turn yellow and stick with that. And for liquid clear I use this stuff.
Another good product is zoop seal for polished aluminum.
Another good product is zoop seal for polished aluminum.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
so your saying that the glisten stuff works? which product did u find that worked best?
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
Clear Powder Coating or Glisten PC
I like the glisten PC if Im shooting liquids and need to clear something that needs good protection..
http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=GPC&dept=6
SPRAY it dont brush it.
I like the glisten PC if Im shooting liquids and need to clear something that needs good protection..
http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=GPC&dept=6
SPRAY it dont brush it.
A Brilliant Two-Component Clear Coating
GLISTEN PC is a High Gloss, Rock Hard, Water-clear topcoat designed for spray or brush application over all metal surfaces, including highly polished aluminum and chrome surfaces. GLISTEN PC will not leave brushmarks, and will dry in less than one hour, but will take 3-4 days to reach maximum hardness.
When GLISTEN PC is first dry to the touch, it will appear to be very soft. Avoid touching it for several days until it becomes hard and tough. Accidental contact could damage the surface before full cure has taken place. Like many other coatings, GLISTEN PC is a MOISTURE-CURED coating, which means it is strengthened by exposure to moisture. It will never crack, chip, peel, or yellow, and is very flexible as well.
Note: When applying over polished metals (aluminum, chrome, brass, copper etc) you must use AP120 metal prep according to instructions.
IDEAL USES: As a protective coating on aluminum wheels, chrome bumpers, marine railings, chrome or aluminum covers, grills, handles, ornaments, lights, etc
Pint................ $32.75
Quart............. $54.50
Gallon............ $188.00
GLISTEN PC is a High Gloss, Rock Hard, Water-clear topcoat designed for spray or brush application over all metal surfaces, including highly polished aluminum and chrome surfaces. GLISTEN PC will not leave brushmarks, and will dry in less than one hour, but will take 3-4 days to reach maximum hardness.
When GLISTEN PC is first dry to the touch, it will appear to be very soft. Avoid touching it for several days until it becomes hard and tough. Accidental contact could damage the surface before full cure has taken place. Like many other coatings, GLISTEN PC is a MOISTURE-CURED coating, which means it is strengthened by exposure to moisture. It will never crack, chip, peel, or yellow, and is very flexible as well.
Note: When applying over polished metals (aluminum, chrome, brass, copper etc) you must use AP120 metal prep according to instructions.
IDEAL USES: As a protective coating on aluminum wheels, chrome bumpers, marine railings, chrome or aluminum covers, grills, handles, ornaments, lights, etc
Pint................ $32.75
Quart............. $54.50
Gallon............ $188.00
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
heres how much has been removed from my plenum to show you.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
that looks like a 1000cfm mono blade TB opening lol, geez, thats gona be alot to polish.
u better seal the hell outa that
u better seal the hell outa that
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
It was like this when I bought all the stuff. But that was what I had thought that it was for a as&m monoblade. I was going to polish a stock 48mm throttlebody to sell with the system but then got to thinking whats the point, Nothing about this system is really suited for a stock throttlebody since evrything appears to be port matched and most stuff appears to be ported as well ..... So me thinks this stuff was originally intended for a 383 or something or just a high a$$ reving 305 LOL.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
Here you'll really like this shot of my system.
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Re: plenum and runner opinons..
thats insane.... someone put alot of love into that intake....
still that TB is way too big for that TPI system lol. a nice 52mm would be better suited
still that TB is way too big for that TPI system lol. a nice 52mm would be better suited
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