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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 10:23 AM
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What can I do to make my IROC faster ?!

I am about to get some mods for my car because I want to knock down about 1.5 sec in the 0-60 and also my ¼ mile .... rightnow my times are 7 sec 0-60 and 15.4 …
I was planing on getting the DynoMax Ultra Flo Cat system as well as headers, TPIS Airfoil, K&N airfilters and a new set of spark plugs…. I´m also doing a tune up and will exchange the stock plug wires to Accel 8.8s
At the moment it’s a complete stock convertible with 305 TPI auto ….2.73 gears…..
Do you think that I could hit 5.5s and mid – high 13s with just those mods ?? what else would I need ?
Thanks in advance !!

-Alex
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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 11:17 AM
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bwahahahahaha, mid 13s in a 305 convertible w/ headers, cat back and plug wires...bwahahahahahahahahahahaha. And not only that it's a peanut cam car too...bwagagagagaahahahaha

Sorry that was mean i guess, but man i hope you weren't serious. Here is a good list of mods, you'll need most of 'em to get into the 13s, prolly about all of 'em to get consistent mid 13s.

-headers and full exhaust (mandatory)
-port the plenum (mandatory)
-gears (also absolutely essential)
-cam (absolutely essential if you even want to run better than high 14s.)

done right, these alone might get you close/into high 13s

-PROM tuning (a really good idea)
-AFPR (for at the track tuning)
-port the intake base (a good idea)
-heads (either well ported stockers, AL L98s or WP 305 torquers, not essential but will be needed to get much past high 13s)
-converter (not a bad idea)

These options can still be done rather cheaply and will definitely get you well into the 13s (again assuming you know what you are doing)

Airfoil does not count for anything. KNs and plug wires are just general maintenance, they are not going to make you faster. They're not a bad idea, on the contrary, keeping your basics in perfect conditon is the only way to know you are getting everything you should be.
It's not that it's hard to get where you want to be, but it will take more than just exhaust

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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 11:45 AM
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Beyond that, a converter and gears are the two biggest things that will help. Full exhaust and a ported intake if you can't use a carb

Cam and heads are, as Ed said, the way to go from high to mid/low 13s. Check the power adder forum to see what guys run with a stock engine and a supercharger or nitrous.

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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 01:39 PM
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a couple JATO rockets would work too.


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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 06:36 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by james_fearn:
a couple JATO rockets would work too.

James

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dood! When my uncle was in the air force he knew a guy who put one of those on the back of his 66 impala. They were stationed at like that area 51 place, and he stole it from where they have the big planes to move the UFOs.
Anyhow, he went out in the desert and got that thing going, then hit the go-baby-go button and the f ucker ended up taking off straight into the side of a mountainlike 12 miles away. They found skids/pieces of tire/rim from where he tried to stop before the road turned, and after that, BLAM, 400+ mph (FAA investigation estimate, it was rocket powered and airborn after all, eh?)into the side of a cliff.
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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 06:44 PM
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Heeeeey....that sounds like a Darwin award winner I remember. Why didn't he just shove it straight up his a$$ for a weight savings ?

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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 07:40 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 07:42 PM
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88IrocConvertible, check out my site for mods to my IROC & results. My best run was mid 14s but my IROC is heavy at 3,700lbs.

If you don't have a posi, get the 3.42 posi rear for some real help and it has that dam '86 "peanut" cam.

I too think that you will need heads & maybe cam to get mid 13s. Check out the TF Al heads. At least you have a roller cam with more lift than I and your 700R/4 is far superior to mine.

BTW, I'm looking for an base intake mod by Madmax that I hear netted him 30-40HP.


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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 08:30 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jim 86 IROC:
BTW, I'm looking for an base intake mod by Madmax that I hear netted him 30-40HP.


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Ummm NO... cutting out the Krispy Kream doughnuts and his fat *** losing a few lbs is how he made up the time!

A cam does no good unless you have heads, intake, and exhaust to move the air...


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Old Sep 19, 2001 | 06:40 AM
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Ed and his internet myths......

I fell for it also about 4-5 years ago.

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Old Sep 19, 2001 | 09:50 AM
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Okay, I guess I realized that I will have to mod much more to shave down 1 sec than I thought. :-)

As for changing the gears…. I currently have 2.73 posi… let´s say I want to get in richmond 3.42s, would it be a direct bolt in or would I have to switch the carrier too ?

I also think it would be best if I throw my cam out too…. Anybody know what would work best for me ?……. is a cam really useless if I don´t switch to other heads ?….

Thanks for your help…

-Alex
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Old Sep 19, 2001 | 10:42 AM
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Richmond makes a set of 3.42s that will work on a 2 series carrier. It's not a direct bolt-in in terms of there is set-up/shimming involved with getting it all set right in there.
And i'm going to firmly disagree w/ biochem about the cam. There is not a peanut cam in existence that does not deserve to be swapped, especially if you ever hope to run more than 90-91mph. You can't go too nuts on the cam w/o significant improvements in intake/heads, but anything will work better than a peanut cam.
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