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1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Car: 1982 PONTIAC FIREBIRD
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1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

WHERE DO I BEGIN, LOL!!! THE CAR IS A 305 TPI, ON IDLE IT REVS AND RUNS SMOOTH, NO ENGINE WARNING LIGHTS. AS SOON AS YOU DRIVE THE CAR IT STUMBLES ALMOST LIKE APPLYING THE BRAKES AND THEN PICKS UP REALLY SHARPLY, ONCE ACCELERATING IT PINKS CONTINUALLY UNTIL THE WARNING LIGHT COMES ON AND THE VEHICLE GOES INTO A LIMP HOME MODE. ON STOPING AT LIGHTS THE IDLE DIPS DOWN LOW, NOT HUNTING, BUT PICKING UP FOR 20 SECONDS TO 1200RPM AND THEN DOWN TO 700RPM FOR 60 SECONDS, THEN BACK UP, BLOODY ANNOYING, LOL!! THE CAR IS UNDRIVEABLE IN IT'S PRESENT STATE. IT SOMETIMES THROWS UP CODES 21 AND 22 AT THE SAME TIME (TPS SIGNAL VOLTAGE LOW AND HIGH), BUT SEEMS TO ALWAYS THROW UP 43 (EST CIRCUIT PROBLEMS). I THINK I HAVE MORE THAN ONE ISSUE!! PLEASE SUGEST WHERE TO START SORTING THIS THING OUT, I'VE SPENT A DAY BEATING MYSELF UP AND ACHIEVED NOTHING!!

MANY THANKS
JONATHAN.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Car: 89 jaguar xjs convertable
Engine: 89 L98 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 dana 44
Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

When you scan a car you are suppose to fix the problems in the order that the codes appear. So, whatever code is spit out first, tackle that problem. Subsiquent codes can be triggered by the first code.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

I didn't know that, so thank you, that will be the TPS codes then, ihave swopped it with a spare one i had and had the same issue's, but nothing to say that was a good part as it was a used one!! Are there any constructive ways to check the low/high voltage issue with the TPS??
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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Car: 89 jaguar xjs convertable
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Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 dana 44
Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

Your TPS voltage should be set between .54 and .56 volts. Also check for smooth operation throughout the entire sweep. In other words voltage should rise and lower smoothly as you slowlypush the gas pedal to the floor and release no jumping in the readings.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Transmission: 5 SPEED
Axle/Gears: 9 BOLT
Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

Ok thanks,
I'm getting 0.3 as a highest reading, so kind of indicates an issue.
Thanks for your time.
Jonathan.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

Your at idle setting should read .54-.56 Don't worry to much about the readings as you do your sweep test, you just want that test to show smooth gradual increase/decreases. Turn the key on, and check your voltage readings at idle position. Thats where you set your .54-.56
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Car: 1989 Iroc-z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: Auto 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt - 2.77
Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

Here are diagnostic charts for code 21, 22 and if needed 43. TPS voltage shoud be .54 to .56 just like rob said. Hope these charts help you out.
Attached Thumbnails 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!-code-21.jpg   1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!-code-22.jpg   1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!-code-43.jpg  
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

Thanks so much for your help!!!
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

Jermdm, thanks for those diagnosis flow charts, i feel that i have an action plan and direction to proceed in. I really appreciate your time in copying and sending these to aid me in my quest, can't say thanks enough!!!

Many thanks
Jonathan.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Car: 1989 Iroc-z
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Transmission: Auto 700R4
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Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

No problem. Like to help when I can.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Car: 89 jaguar xjs convertable
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Re: 1989 IROC-Z TPI PROBLEMS!!!!

No problem. Let us know how you make out.
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