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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 11:29 PM
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Noisey Timing Gears

I know that we are not supposed to have noisey timing gears on our TPI Camaro's due to the Knock Sensor. But how is my Bro-n-law able to run his HSR without having any engine trouble?

He's got an 87 IROC.

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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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Re: Noisey Timing Gears

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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
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Re: Noisey Timing Gears

Sounds like it cud b a few diff things.
low fuid in the powersteering pump or its going out.
Bad alt bearing.
water pump bearing
maybe a trans pump going out.
a exhaust leak.

Just ideas to check
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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Re: Noisey Timing Gears

It's neither. I saw when the builder installed the timing gears. I was gonna do the same but I found out that timing gears are bad due to the knock sensor.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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Re: Noisey Timing Gears

Is it a gear drive timming setup?
If not did you remove one belt at a time to see what bearing oor pump is making noise?
If it is a gear drive, on a maf car you can just unhook the knock sensor.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Re: Noisey Timing Gears

So there's no problems if we disconnect the knock sensor right? And yes sir, it's maf.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Re: Noisey Timing Gears

Only if you over advance your timming. make sure you run the correct fuel grade for the timming you run..
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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 12:31 AM
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Re: Noisey Timing Gears

Last that my bro n law told me was that he felt his Camaro idle a hell of a lot smoother when he used 91 octane. So I don't know if that'll do the trick. But I'll let my bro know the good and the bad. I've told him that metal gears interfere with the knock sensor in such a way that timing will be retarded due to excessive noise also that removing the knock sensor will not let the ECM retard the spark to reduce harmful ping if present. But thanks for the info man. Much appreciated
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