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Old May 14, 2002 | 07:06 AM
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drive shaft...TH350swap

swapped my 700r4 for a TH350 ...yeah good idea i know!...and i also know that since its a 6inch tail shaft i have to modify a bunch of crap which ive already done......excetp the drive shaft i had cut to damn short........and i cant find one out of a 82 camaro that came with 200c ....what i am getting at is this since the 9inch tailshaft th350 will take my drive shaft and i have a 6inch tailshaft does this mean that the next drive shaft i cut has to be 3 inchs longer than my stock drive shaft! if anyone knows exactly how many inches it has to be......that would be great!
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Old May 14, 2002 | 11:39 AM
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Car: 1987 Camaro Z-28
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Transmission: Tremec TKO 600
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I wouldn't rely on what length someone tells me, I would measure it myself. Go here: http://www.iedls.com/ they have instructions on how to measure if you don't know.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
A 700R4 driveshaft will work for a 9" tailshaft. It's not 100% accurate but is within 1/4" so that it will work. The 6" tailshaft should use the longer driveshaft but since you say you can't find one then just get a longer one shortened 6". It should be close enough to work fine.

Take the slip yoke off the driveshaft and slide it into the back of the tranny all the way. Pull it back out out 1". Measure from the center of the u-joint on the slip yoke to the center of the u-joint on the diff yoke. That's the length of the driveshaft required.
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by Stephen 87 IROC
A 700R4 driveshaft will work for a 9" tailshaft. It's not 100% accurate but is within 1/4" so that it will work. The 6" tailshaft should use the longer driveshaft but since you say you can't find one then just get a longer one shortened 6". It should be close enough to work fine.

Yeah I know old post...been searching the archives. I have the 6" tailshaft on my th350. When you say get a longer driveshaft , what vehicle would be a good choice to steal one from?
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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an old truck. just measure before u by and go to the boneyard and maybe they will help u if not screw them and ripsoem**** off of them while u r buying the driveshaft.
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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lmao.. That is exactly what I do at our local u-pullit...thanks for the reply....I'm 40. older may mean a little different to me. give me some time spread..70's?..90's? thanks again
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 02:44 AM
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prolly anything above an s10 standard will work. all trucks have that longer wheelbase but make sure u measure before u go buy. i have 3 driveshafts from when i was searchin for one for my elcamino. i didnt measure as u can tell. wear those cargo pants and bring a big empty tool box and stuff as much **** as possible into them and get some goodies. lol i do other wise i would be more than just broke. lol
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 05:34 AM
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thanks again..I'll be sure and measure before. About how much did it cost to get it shortened and balanced?
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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I have a driveshaft that is 42 1/4" center to center and has '83
Camaro w/ TH 350 /6" tail written on it. I just looked for a short driveshaft that didn't have a balance weight where I planned to
cut it.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 11:14 PM
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The longer driveshaft you need for a short tailshaft TH350 swap is out of an early third gen that came with the TH200 3 speed tranny.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 04:04 AM
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Ok Stephen, I will stick with looking for the 3rd gen drive shaft. I have some time. I'm going to put the old 700r4 back in until I can afford the Spohn conversion kit.

Norbert, When you say center to center, I,m assuming you mean the center of the u-joint to the center of the joint on the yoke. Is this correct? Norbert, I dont imagine this shaft you have is an extra you just happen to have laying around and want to get rid of, is it?
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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if I'm not mistaken it's just under 3" longer something like 2 7/8"
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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I just completed this swap. I needed a 3.25"-3.5" longer ds for my swap. The ds I found at the bone yard was out of a 79 Monza wagon ! Had to use the rear yoke from the original when replacing u-joints.
Someone said they were saving for the Spohn kit. I'd consider the B&M conversion kit. B&M's kit was $85 and I needed a new ta bracket from GM- $21. You get a new ta from Spohn but its over $400 for there kit compared to a little over $100 for B&M's.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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SPohn's kit is 355.00 That includes an adjustable torque arm..and X-member. I'll wait thanks.
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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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I priced it with a spherical rod end + shipping and it was over $400. It also came with a bracket so you could use your existing crossmember. ( I did'nt need a new one)
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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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Riley's35089rs+ - Yes, that is how I measured it. Check your e-mail. Mine is the one with Driveshaft ?? for the subject
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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Nordbert
Riley's35089rs+ - Yes, that is how I measured it. Check your e-mail. Mine is the one with Driveshaft ?? for the subject
Got the e-mail. Ill be calling 08/30/02 evening. Thanks alot .
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