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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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Anyone know what a rebuilt T5 is selling for???

Anyone know what a rebuilt T5 is selling for???

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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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400-500 if I ever get around to rebuilding mine. :lala:
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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OK I'll sell mine for $500. I am in warm Louisiana!
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Car: 91 GTA and 85 IROC
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The rebuild kit is around 230. So you don't make much profit. But it does get rid of some extra parts.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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Mines already rebuilt. But I need a TKO.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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Car: 91 GTA and 85 IROC
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Why would you need a TKO?

Too much TQ? Mine put up w/ a $hit load before I decided to go to a 6spd. It still worked when I took it out.

How much power you puttin down?
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Car: 1991 Conv. TA
Engine: Forged 350 with D-1SC
This one!

1991 TA 305 TPI w/ T5

160 deg thermostat
3.42 gears
52 mm stock Throttle Body
SLP 1 5/8" headers and 3" exhaust
Crane Cam Model 2032 (no overlap in exhaust and intake)
SLP intake runners
SLP air foil
Crane 1.6 roller rockers
TPIS big mouth intake
Accel 23# injectors
AFPR set at 47 psi
Racetronix high flow/pressure fuel pump and wiring harness
New fuel filter
All new ignition items (wires, cap, rotor, etc)
Jacob's Pro Street Ignition
ATI inline fuel pump
ATI FMU (set full rich now)
ATI D-1SC ProCharger (10 psi pulley) twin intercooled
Nitto 555R Drag Radials
Custom prom

:lala: :lala: :lala:

Not dynoed yet, but I should be running 400 HP. T5 rated for 300 HP.

I don't have the $$$ for the T3550 or TKO (both 5 speeds), so I hope you are right!!

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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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Yes, nothing like a supercharger to render a T5 inadequate
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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The price of POWER!!!
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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RIP that T-5. I hav ea friend who eats 3rd gear sychro constanly but on the upside----he got really good at the rebuild process.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 10:06 PM
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OK OK I get it!!!

So she's up for sale.

Offers!! $500 Please. I am in New Orleans.

$$$$ Needy.

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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Blech.. t5's are great.

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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So why do you say this???

I see you are using one.

Explain how it is not blowd up real good??????
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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EVerything breaks, including T5's but theyre not as bad as people say.

Sure if you drive like a 16 year old and miss gears, forget what the clutch is, etc You'll break one. But look at all the mustangs running T5's.. They're all quick.


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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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What HP and Torque are you running?

I am sure it is high by looking at your sig.

I have been doing much research. I don't want to have my T5 blow up with 400 + HP and Torque if they are only rated at 300 HP.

I would rather sell it in good condition than throw it away.

Do you think it can handle 400 HP at the track with drag radials.

That will be me.

But I will do my best not to drive it like a 16 yr old.

Just would like to have that youth!!!! :lala: :lala: :lala:
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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The T- 5's that mustangs run are different than the one in gm. The GM version is not rated for very much torque which is why they were not offered with a 350. The person I know that runs one has a 305 with a cam and head work and it can't take it. He also only drives 2500 miles a year. AND you should stop and ask a *** Mustang owner---They blow up there t-5's also. There hot set up is to go to a Tremec( which are good to about 450-500 horse).
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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STREETRCR The 88` and later WC T-5s are the same as there mustang counterparts,save for some exterior differences,gear ratios, etc. I know personally that the NWC T-5s cant take much abuse at all, I just upgraded to a WC T-5 that came from a 92` Z28 it only has 5k on a rebuild, in fact its from BORLAZ06`s car (he just put in a 6 speed) I am very interested to see how well this one holds up.

MYPONTIAC as for if you should replace it or not, theres 2 schools of thought on this, use it until it explodes, or spend the money now and get something better. i know there are some members running 12`s on the WC boxes, so it can be done, how long it will live? only time will tell.

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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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Well Fastcamaro87,

Since I will have to put out $2160 + $210 for shifter + $110 for shipping + $$$ few $100 for mechanic to install + $120 and shipping $$$ for new Spohn torque arm brace to get the TKO in, I am inclined to keep the T5.

I guess I will see how it feels under the load.

Always $$$$ with these cars, eh???

Thanks!
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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I think the cheaper choice is to get a used 93-97 T56 from a 4th gen f-body out of a junkyard. If you can find a deal on the parts and install it yourself, it could be under $1500 for everything. If you need someone to install it, then expect to pay around $2000-2200.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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Aside from the casing, the mustang T5's are the same internally.. Ever open one up?

Your T5 will be fine, use it til it explodes, if ever. I raced on the non-world class T5 for 3 years, 12 second e/ts, slicks and 3600lbs.. They're not that bad..

World class T5's arnt really "stronger". The syncro design is a little better, but its not like the gears are stronger, or that the case is more rigid so it won't break under flex (which is how they break normally).

The "*** mustang owner" comment is immature, and innapropriate. Noone cares about your insecurities, so don't make fun of people driving other makes of cars.

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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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"I raced on the non-world class T5 for 3 years, 12 second e/ts, slicks and 3600lbs.. They're not that bad.. "

wow well there goes some real world proof to back up my satement. glad to see that it can be done. Definitely makes me more hopeful that i will be able to pull it off with my drivetrain, once the supercharger goes in.


:hail: T-5
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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Frankly, for the $50-200.00 a pop they run, and the 30mins it takes to change 'em on the lift, I'll keep running em forever. 3 years on 1 tranny isn't bad.. It doesn't justify the purchase of a 6spd unless I want economy.

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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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If you need someone to install it, then expect to pay around $2000-2200.

This would still work out to be the same cost as the TKO then. Since the other items I mentioned will still need to be done. The Spohn torque arm brace will need to be changed and probably other modifications to the drive shaft.

So I am inclined to take the advise of anesthes for now and just try to keep an eye on things. At least with using the Spohn torque arm I have eliminated the flex caused from the stock torque arm.

Thanks for all the input.
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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I use the jegster torque arm, which bolts to the floor. So doing a tranny swap is really easy, just 4 bolts in the front, 4 in the shifter, and 5 for the mount.

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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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I'm not insecure, I just hate mustangs. As for imature---YES I AM. I'm sure T-5's are great I am just telling you that I watch my my friend eat his up every year with a mild 305. As for the Ford and GM t-5 being the same maybe some one can explain why they are rated so different on the amout of torque they can handle??? Also, if you swtch to comp eng. ladder bars or lakewood adjustable lower control arms you can SAFELY eliminate your torque arm which makes life with one of our cars a little easier.

(don't be a hater. I think they have a support group for closet Mustang fans)
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Also, if you swtch to comp eng. ladder bars or lakewood adjustable lower control arms you can SAFELY eliminate your torque arm which makes life with one of our cars a little easier.
with the southside machine lift bars you can eliminate the torque arm, and with a ladder bar setup also, however adjustable lakewood LCA`s will not allow you to rid your car of the torque arm.
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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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Lakewood P/N (in Jeg's) 620-21700 Traction...action Lift Bars allow for the removal of the torque arm. I have installed 5 sets of these for customers and they are a real nice set up.
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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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sweet . i didnt know you could take off the TA if you got the lakewood traction action lift bars.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by mypontiac
What HP and Torque are you running?
They don't rate them on HP they rate them on TQ.

Yes the WC-T5 is rated to 300ft#

Did my motor break the T-5 when it put down 551 rwtq (~620-630 at the crank)?
NO. Its all in how you drive. Try hookin that on the street.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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Lakewood P/N (in Jeg's) 620-21700 Traction...action Lift Bars allow for the removal of the torque arm. I have installed 5 sets of these for customers and they are a real nice set up.
That is not recomended. The lakewood setup is designed to assist the torque arm not replace it. It will work as long as they dont break which they do fairly often even with the torque arm. If they break and you dont have a torque arm your rear is going to twist the u-joint up at a pretty bad angle. Go here and look at this https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=151251 If people didnt have problems like this and you could get rid of your torque arm without worrying then I would consider trying them. Yes, they say they are being made with better metal now, but there have been several people that had them break with the way they used to make them even while using torque arms that I would want to wait and see if the new version holds up before I would want to try them.

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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I just got an email back from lakewood. I was curious to know for sure whether you could use them without the torque arm and here is what they said.

http://www.mrgasket.com/maildirect/h...TicketID=64501

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Good info! Last year when I talked to their tech line they said I could removed it. Maybe the breakage problem has changed their recommendation. I run Comp Engineering ladder bars and the directions recommended I did not use the torque arm, and the Lakewoods look a lot more sturdy. I recently talked to a couple of my customers who run them and they reported no problems. One of them actually reinstalled his torque arm for a short while with polymounts. However, he reported that the ride sucked so bad he took it of and sold the mounts. I think that the bad ride may hve come from conflicting center lines causing the suspension to bind, but I would stick to the manufactures recommendations.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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Do you have a picrture of your ladder bars? What all does it take to install those? How do you like them?

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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No pics but to install them you have to buy comp eng frame connectors (it's required). The ladder bars bolt on in place of the stock LCA's, but the forward mount is moved 6inches forward. It does mean you have to cut a notch in the rear sub frame but the result is a center line that is further forward (which is good). As for how they work, we'll see but I do have a friend running in the 8's with this setup and a nine inch rear. He never complains and his car launches wheels up, strait. I struggled a little lining everything up but it all fit nice in the end without interfearing with the back seat or any other part of the floor. I wiil work on getting some pics up and I'll post them on a different thread.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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How do you think it compares to the SSM liftbar setup? I have considered it, but hadnt even heard of the one you have. How much does it cost? Ground clearance? How does it push up on the car if it bolts in place of the lca, wouldnt it just pivot and act as a longer lca?

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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You know I'm not sure if my set up is the best or how it compares. I just researched; asked around to see what worked. When you see an 82 camaro with a small block and spray gettin rediculous traction and laying down 8 second time slips-----you trust in what works. SSM makes great stuff but like you, I also never heard of this before I saw them on my friendscar. I like to be different so I bought them. Ground clearance is not a problem everything tucks up real nice. Getting your car to hook has a great deal to do with the suspension centerline. I've got 500 horse to put down on 10 inch tires. So like I said I just went with what I saw as fact and not someones opinion
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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How well does it hook for you?

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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WE'll find out this year. I just finished the car in September an it goes for exhaust next week. Look for me on the southside subs of chicago and ask me. I hope it hooks as good as my buddies car
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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I dont get up near Chicago very much. I cant wait to see pics of it though.

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