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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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T-5 shifter hurst,B&M etc..??

Im looking to buy a short through T-5 shifter for my 91Z
and Im wondering if anyone has bought one and what they think of any of them Hurst,B&M etc. thanks for any input
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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If $$$ isn't a big concern, the Pro 5.0 is a great shifter. I noticed an immediate improvement over the stock POS...it costs like 20-30 bucks more than the Hursrt though...
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Confuzed1
If $$$ isn't a big concern, the Pro 5.0 is a great shifter. I noticed an immediate improvement over the stock POS...it costs like 20-30 bucks more than the Hursrt though...
yeah I saw that one too...whats the difference between the two??
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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I have a Hurst, Billet Plus. Can't say how much it was, it was a Christams present. I have always heard good things about the Pro 5.0, but I do love that hurst. Entirely different feeling than the stock shifter, if you can call it that. imo, any aftermarket shifter is well worth it.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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HURST...
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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And the B&M these shifters dont come with the ****,you use your stock one..... $165+ for B&M and HURST, and $199+ for the Pro5.0

I dont like the looks of the B&M one it looks cheap...
but the other 2 look pretty tuff

so are they better as far as quicker shifts ? and I assume the shifter wont slam the plastic around the boot anymore?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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yes, the shifter travel is greatly reduced, and there are adjustable stops to prevent you from going to far, which can bend the forks in the tranny. as for appearance, the hurst looks cool, but i don't understand why they anodize the base since you never see it.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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was adjusting it pretty easy?? I know installing is easy,Ive done alot of T-5 swaps in my past Camaro so have plenty of experiance with that part
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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Adjustment is a piece of cake....put in 1st and turn the screw in till it just touches the handle -, back out 1 turn and lock it in. Do the same in 2nd gear for the other stop.

The handle on my Pro-5.0 doesn't look like the one above, but it has the same base...

Nothing else to adjust. BTW....you won't need to adjust the B&M at all because - if the pic above is accurate - it doesn't have any stops!! That missing feature is a big turn-off IMO....

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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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I have the Hurst and I love it. It makes the stock shifter feel like a rubber stick...

These shifters lower the pivot point of the shifter arm, thus shortening the length of the throw.

Adjustment is easy, all you need is an allen and a wrench to tighten the set screw. As far as bending a fork, I wouldn't worry about because they generally break first since they're only made of aluminum.

On mine I drilled another hole below the ones that hurst drilled to mount it even lower (about 1"). That shortens the throws even more and it's an easy modification.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Confuzed1
Adjustment is a piece of cake....put in 1st and turn the screw in till it just touches the handle -, back out 1 turn and lock it in. Do the same in 2nd gear for the other stop.

The handle on my Pro-5.0 doesn't look like the one above, but it has the same base...

Nothing else to adjust. BTW....you won't need to adjust the B&M at all because - if the pic above is accurate - it doesn't have any stops!! That missing feature is a big turn-off IMO....
thats just what I thought when I looked at that pic too,but you know sometimes they dont use the right pic for what your looking for so Im not sure if those are an accurate pics ,but either way I guess I'll go with the Pro5.0 or the hurst! thanks guys
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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Hi guys...

I am in the middle of a t5 swap right now and am looking for a shifter also. I may have found a B&M one and you are right, that is NOT the correct picture. At least the one I am looking at has a straight shaft and according to the guy that has it for sale, there are adjustable stops on it or else I wouldn't be interested in it either. That pic (above) is the one in Jeg's and Summit, but it must be for another application such as the t56...???
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Vidman
Hi guys...

I am in the middle of a t5 swap right now and am looking for a shifter also. I may have found a B&M one and you are right, that is NOT the correct picture. At least the one I am looking at has a straight shaft and according to the guy that has it for sale, there are adjustable stops on it or else I wouldn't be interested in it either. That pic (above) is the one in Jeg's and Summit, but it must be for another application such as the t56...???
Do you have a pic of the right one? I thought I read it had the adjustments thats why I said I wasnt sure if that was the right pic,but I would like to see an actual pic if you can get one
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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I believe this is closer to the right pic but the base dont look long enough,but either way its similar and your right...the bent type shifter is for the t-5 in the 5.0 mustang.and it does have the stop adjustments but you cant see them because they are allen set screws to adjust them not visable bolts like the others
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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this is what they use for stop adjustments
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Z dude
I believe this is closer to the right pic but the base dont look long enough,but either way its similar and your right...the bent type shifter is for the t-5 in the 5.0 mustang.and it does have the stop adjustments but you cant see them because they are allen set screws to adjust them not visable bolts like the others
Z dude - I'm not 100% positive whether the B&M shifter has stops or not. I am sure that I've read posts on this board where people said that the B&M shifter USED to come with stops, but the ones they sell now don't have them. Try a search.....or give them a call to verify.

IMO the only choice is between Hurst or 5.0 - never been a fan of B&M anything, but that's just me.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Confuzed1
Z dude - I'm not 100% positive whether the B&M shifter has stops or not. I am sure that I've read posts on this board where people said that the B&M shifter USED to come with stops, but the ones they sell now don't have them. Try a search.....or give them a call to verify.

IMO the only choice is between Hurst or 5.0 - never been a fan of B&M anything, but that's just me.
thanks for the info. I believe everyone has answered my questions I want the pro 5.0 or hurst,yes I have had problems with B&M in the past too,But just was trying to see what they all looked like, I figure 165+ is close to 200 so its a matter of which one now
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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having used all 3 (pro-5.0, hurst, b&m)

i can tell you, the pro-5.0 is the one in my car

the hurst is also a very nice peice, but i love the 2-3 shift acuracy of the pro50
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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ok now......you guys just want me to spend the full $200.

lol J/K
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TAKE NOTE!

The B&M does NOT have adjustable shift stops!

Which among other poor features, makes it a pile of crap, and a bad choice. Don't make the mistake I did, of buying that shifter.

When I went to buy it, I called Summit, and asked them if it did have adjustable shift stops. They told me that it did. The thing came, no shift stops. Grrrrr.

I drilled and tapped holes where those flat pads youo see in the pics are, and made my own. But the thing is still a POS.

B&M USED to make a shifter WITH adjustable shift stops but when they came out w/the "Ripper II" THey did away with them. Bad idea.

Also, in my expirience, I have missed more shifts in one night at the strip w/ the B&M than I did in a season w/the STOCKER!

The B&M is no good. Please avoid it.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Re: TAKE NOTE!

Originally posted by Tom 400 CFI
The B&M does NOT have adjustable shift stops!

Which among other poor features, makes it a pile of crap, and a bad choice. Don't make the mistake I did, of buying that shifter.

When I went to buy it, I called Summit, and asked them if it did have adjustable shift stops. They told me that it did. The thing came, no shift stops. Grrrrr.

I drilled and tapped holes where those flat pads youo see in the pics are, and made my own. But the thing is still a POS.

B&M USED to make a shifter WITH adjustable shift stops but when they came out w/the "Ripper II" THey did away with them. Bad idea.

Also, in my expirience, I have missed more shifts in one night at the strip w/ the B&M than I did in a season w/the STOCKER!

The B&M is no good. Please avoid it.
Now thats the info we are looking for! I bet you was piiiiiiised!
paying the same as what they want for the Hurst and getting less of a shifter!
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Go with the Pro 5.0. It is awesome. It is so much better than stock and makes a great metallic clink sound when you shift. Just look at the pics above and you tell me which one looks stronger. The Pro 5.0 has far more material than the others, especialy around the shifter handle. Also you can get it for 170 and not 200. You have to look around. I got mine for 175 on sale at thunder racing but an ad over on www.camaroz28.com has a special for 170. Here is a pic of it next to the stock one.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Another shot of the finished install.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:32 AM
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Another shot of the finished install.
great pics
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OK...

You guys got me...

After reading all this, I ditched the idea for the B&M and just got off the phone and ordered a PRO 5.0!!!!! Ordered it from Year One for $185.00 plus shipping. (197.00) total. Jeg's was going to be$208.98 I believe. Anyway, I have no doubt the Hurst and B&M are good shifters, but people had their problems with one or the other whereas I read NOTHING bad on here about the pro 5.0. I am just a little excited, can you tell? *L* Later!!!!!!!!

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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OK...

You guys got me...

After reading all this, I ditched the idea for the B&M and just got off the phone and ordered a PRO 5.0!!!!! Ordered it from Year One for $185.00 plus shipping. (197.00) total. Jeg's was going to be$208.98 I believe. Anyway, I have no doubt the Hurst and B&M are good shifters, but people had their problems with one or the other whereas I read NOTHING bad on here about the pro 5.0. I am just a little excited, can you tell? *L* Later!!!!!!!!

http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...ain2.asp?cat=G

good site!

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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where'd ya get the shift **** ?
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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the one i have is actualy a GM performance parts one. they have been discontinued.

you can get basicly the same thing from MBA
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http://www.mbaproducts.com/interior.htm

see, basicly the same thing
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Im puting a shifter in my T5 for christmas and im getting the hurst. For one because its a legendary name and has been around for 30 years, and two because imo i dont want to put a mustang shifter in my camaro, yes its still a great shifter but wouldnt be my preference
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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I would think you would want the shifter that functions the best, regardless of name and heritage. But if it makes you happy, that's cool.
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Originally posted by 89' RS/blue
Im puting a shifter in my T5 for christmas and im getting the hurst. For one because its a legendary name and has been around for 30 years, and two because imo i dont want to put a mustang shifter in my camaro, yes its still a great shifter but wouldnt be my preference
my thoughts exactly:rockon: I love saying I have a Hurst shifter
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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If I were you I'd get PRO 5.0
I have B&M, no complaints here but PRO 5.0 just looks more reliable and adj. stops :hail:
got some pics og B&M for you:
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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I just installed a Hurst competition plus on my t5 and was REALLY happy with it. Then I saw this thing on ebay. It dropped my shifter down like 2 inches and shortened my shifts even more! It's the tightest, clickiest, shortest throw shifter I've ever felt. Sure there are ones shorter but you should seriously try it! My shift **** is almost in the boot!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2448339174
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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The Hurst shifter was the first mod I got for my car. I chose it because my dad got a Hurst for his 81 Corvette and it made a huge difference. Also the Hurst name is a plus. Honestly I didn't do much research on the topic, just bought.

The only gripe I had about it was in all the pictures you see in Summit and like the pic above, and on the box, the stick itself is short and curved, but the one that came with it was a tall straight peice. I didn't like the feel of that (I always rest my hand on the shifter, and my elbow didn't rest on the console..) so I went to a speed shop and ordered the shorter curved stick. It made the location of the shift **** lower and closer to the driver. I love it. That was another 30 bucks, plus I had to have the genuine Hurst shift ****, which was another 30 bucks.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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The only gripe I had about it was in all the pictures you see in Summit and like the pic above, and on the box, the stick itself is short and curved,
They are showing the T-56 version in the pics.
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I have the B&M... the only prob I have with it is that it rattles a lot, and seems to loosen up, no matter how tight I have it!!
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