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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
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T56 pedal assembly?

I have a question about swapping from automatic to T56. I would be receiving the pedal assembly, brake and clutch pedal, hydraulic unit, from a 4th gen, would I be able to put this in my 3rd gen and would the brake pedal work with the brake booster? What if I obtained a 3rd gen pedal assembly, could this work with the 4th generation hydraulic clutch? Thanks
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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Car: Trans Am
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Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73
it is my understanding that either assembley will work, but you will have to use the correct hydraulics for the application t5/t56! You will have to cut off the gas pedal off the 4th gen assembly l believe.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Car: 91Z, 91RS, '84 Jimmy
Engine: L98, 355, L98
Transmission: 700R, T56, 700R4
You are correct.

3rd gen pedals from '84 up (hydraulic clutch cars) will bolt right in and hook up to the LT1-style hydros. 4th gen pedals will bolt in and work after you cut off the gas pedal, the brake booster rod is the same.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Thanks guys, that helps alot
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Yeah, I scrounged a set of 3rd gen pedals from a junkyard, because I didn't want the hassle of modifying the 4th gen pedals. The 3rd gen ones worked just fine. The install is a bit of a pain because you have to pull the brake booster foreward, or remove it, which is what I did because I needed room to cut the hole in the firewall for the clutch rod anyway.
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
Originally posted by TheGreatJ
You are correct.

3rd gen pedals from '84 up (hydraulic clutch cars) will bolt right in and hook up to the LT1-style hydros. 4th gen pedals will bolt in and work after you cut off the gas pedal, the brake booster rod is the same.
Why won't the gas pedal work?
I put some 4th gen Auto pedals in my car when I had the Auto and it went in smooth.
I've got 4th gen T56 pedals now and they went in fine as well.
I used the gas pedals that came with each assembly.
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
I never said the gas pedal wouldn't work. It just seems that it's standard practice to remove the gas pedal and just use the factory stand-alone pedal already in your car. Like I said, I used 3rd gen pedals, so I don't really know much about the 4th gen units other than what I've read, and all the info on the net says to cut off the gas pedal.

If it was a simple bolt in deal you should post about how you did it so that others can benefit from your experience.
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
If it was a simple bolt in deal you should post about how you did it so that others can benefit from your experience.
I actually thought everyone used all 3 4th gen pedals when they did the conversion, so I never thought about posting about it.

It's really a no brainer to get it in. Just remove the gas pedal from the assembly get it over the steering column and then put the gas pedal back on.
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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From: Newark, DE
Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
And the factory 3rd gen cable works just fine? Or did you use one from an LT1 car?
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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Transmission: T56, T5
Originally posted by TKOPerformance
And the factory 3rd gen cable works just fine? Or did you use one from an LT1 car?
I used the factory TPI cable at first, worked fine. then I got a free Lokar Cable so I am using that now.
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