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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Best price and quality on 12-bolts

Can you guys list where you got your 12-bolts, and what brands they are. and how much you paid. I am looking for a 12-bolt but want to make sure I get the RIGHT one. There are so many manufactureres out there right now. thanks
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Im interested in this as well, I see them on ebay going for 750 or so on average, but im not sure if they fit in my f-body.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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if i got one it would most likely be from here.

http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1336
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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Ack, man that is a bit pricey...
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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Re: Best price and quality on 12-bolts

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Can you guys list where you got your 12-bolts, and what brands they are. and how much you paid. I am looking for a 12-bolt but want to make sure I get the RIGHT one. There are so many manufactureres out there right now. thanks
I'll be in the same shape you're in now. I have a '83Z very soon to have a 406, but I upgraded my T-5 instead of a T-56.....but I too have a 10 bolt.

I plan to find a used 10 bolt posi and swap the 3.73 ring and pinion I have in my one legger now, and hope it holds. I just won't have the $$$ for a 12 bolt for awhile....

A Ford 9" is an option too.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Actually, that is not a horrible price for the rear end. I just checked the local speed shop, and they wanted $2,055 for the Moser 12 bolt rear before the options.

They also told me something I did not know. 12 bolts are more efficient than the 9", thus making more rear wheel hp. Something about the way the gears align.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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it has to do with the relation of the pinion to the ring gear. A 9 inch is very inefficient, I can tell you from experience they are very heavy too unless you get an aluminium housing.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Yeah, but all the stuff about weight and pinion placement doesn't mean jack in the real world. I read an article not too long ago where they ran a 9", a 12-bolt, and a Dana 60 in the exact same car, with the same gearing and style centersection in all the rears. There was no noticeable difference in strip times. A hundreth of a second or so, but if you looked at all the runs the difference between runs with the same rear were often speratated by a hundreth or two, meaning that the rears had basically no effect on performance.

In theory a 12-bolt has the least amount of friction because of the pinion placement. A Dana 60 is definately heavier than either a 9" or a 12-bolt (they don't call it a flying anvil for nothing).

The cheapest I've seen bolt-in 12-bolts for 3rd gens is about $1,650 directly from Moser. 9" Fords seem to actually be a little bit more expensive.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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you need to consider shipping cost. also it's usually cheaper to buy the parts and do the assembly yourself.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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you need to consider shipping cost. also it's usually cheaper to buy the parts and do the assembly yourself.
Also, even if you buy a the complete kit from moser, you need to set it up anyways. My buddy has a moser 9" in his Z28, and the instructions pretty much said that the rear end needs to be re-setup.
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