So I went to go pick up my engine from the shipping company and my cousin had a silverado 1500, so we loaded it on their with a forklift no problem. We thought, "Hey, we'll unbolt the bellhousing, then i'll get my hoist, pull the engine and you can take off for work, shouldn't take longer than 30 min right? Right!".

Boy were we wrong , so we unbolt the bellhousing and we could not pull it off, unbolted the flywheel inspection plate, nothing still, starter comes off, nothing. Were thinking *** damn, screw it lets pull it with the engine and tranny together, so I get my cherry picker and I couldn't find a place to put the damn chains, I couldn't loop it through the exhaust manifolds.

So we fiddle with it for an hour and could only get one chain around the drivers side, he has to go to work soon so were like screw it, try and lift it, my damn hoist won't go that high, so were about 3 hours in this.

I tried to unbolt the tranny from the bellhousing, and we couldn't get that bottom bolt cracked, so we decided to move his truck to the street and get more leverage with the hoist, still a no go. So he calls up four friends and we lift most of the engine off the truck and pull the cherry picker back, so now its off.

Now the engine is hanging from one exhaust manifold on its side and the bellhousing is pried off about 2 inches and its stuck to the engine and it looks so ghetto hahaha, im just waiting for my father in law to get back with a used matress so we can lower it slowly on there and try to get the tranny off.

What I wanted to ask was is there any way to get the bellhousing off a 95 LT1 with a t56 attached without removing the tranny, I can't see what its catching on to. If not i'll lower it and just unbolt the tranny. Thanks, I really need to take a picture before we lower it down, pretty darn funny. Im dissapointed in myself, but like I said, he needed to head to work.

 

heh, thats a good story.

it depends tho, are u willing to cut the bellhousing?

 

In that case, nah, i'll just fiddle with that last bolt, whats holdng it on?

 

Also, anyone know a trick of the trade to get both chains on both exhaust manifolds? Or is there a better way to pick this 350 monster up?

 

well mines a 305, but this is what i did.

 

i dunno if u can see that clearly. theres a bolt with a big washer threaded into one of the carb bolt holes. the chain went thru that.

 

That won't work for me, my cherry picker is a bit different, its using 1 long chain, with a hook on each end and the middle of the chain is bolted to the cherry picker.

 

Just read your post, that will work but hmmm, I don't want to take off the intake though if its possible.

 

oh? is yours fuel injected?

 

Yep, 95 LT1 out of a trans am.

 

Feel free to laugh anytime, I did when I was through cursing at it.

 

More pics...

 

Next one.

 

Last hoister.

 

Now can anyone tell me if this is the factory shifter or the hurst shifter option? It doesn't have the factory shift **** for the t-56 but im pretty sure its a factory shifter with a different ****, anyone know? Thanks.

 

yikes! what a mess.

 

Amazing

 

Thats great.

 

i have a 95 v6.. looks like factory shifter **** but I think it has a short throw... my shifter is straight up and down if so lucky you that is an expensive part

 

nope thats the stock shifter.

 

There is a much better way, either remove an intake bolt from each end and bolt it up there across the motor not just front to rear, or remove the coil from the drivers side head and bolt it to the front of the drivers side head and rear of the pass head, as far as removing the trans, get a breaker bar and maybe a piece of pipe to break it loose, make sure you slip the clutch fork off the pivot stud before trying to slip the trans out.

 

Yea, I was trying with a breaker arm, it wasn't that I didn't have one, it was that it was on a crate in the truck and it was smack in the middle on the bottom, there was no way to get it in there. After it was hanging, I had four guys holding the tranny straight so I could try and crack the bolt but the transmission would turn with it.

No big deal, all is well now, its nice and flat, btw thanks for the tip on the intake manifold bolts, we were just thinking that, but we gotta get a smaller chain, haha just posted these for laughs, I was so ashamed of myself at the ******* job we had to do.

Oh, I didn't know that was a factory shifter, do you mean from a trans am shifter? Because all camaro ****'s i've seen are the round **** with round leather ball, even on the t-56's, suppose the trans ams are different right?

Btw, I love the shift on the six speed, its tighter than a virgin on the shifts.

 

Bolt the trans. and bellhousing back up again.

Unbolt the slave cylinder. Pull the fork outwards. It is held onto the throwout bearing.

Done.

 

What theeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

What ever happened to using a load leveler and doing the job right?

Your lucky it didnt fall.

I always like to get a piece of chain on all 4 corners, the accessory bolt holes in the heads or the intake bolt holes.

A WORD TO ALL OTHERS PULLING MOTORS, IF YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE PERFORMING THIS JOB DO NOT DO IT LIKE THE ABOVE POSTED PICS, ALWAYS USE YOUR BETTER JUDGEMENT.

 

That's pretty awesome!!!

You might have a hard time dropping it in your car with it leaning like that though.....lol !!!

 

I've pulled a few motors and like I said, I hated how I had to do this, I just had to work with what I had as he had to leave, it was only like that for about thirty minutes, I know it was a bit dangerous which is why im posting it, like I said, its down and correct this time.

 

Hah! I tried using one of those pos once.. Pissed me off to no end.


I usually use the factory hoist loops on the block, and if there are none, i spend 10 minutes putting a pair on. One front, one rear.

-- Joe

 

Hmmm, thats funny, you must have been doing something wrong.

I can pull a motor and trans combo out of a bay by myself with not even touching the paint on the car at any point while pulling it out.

 

Whatever works. I've done 100s the otherway. But I grew up in a dealership, they do things different than some people.

-- Joe

 

heh.

one bolt thru the chain (with a washer) into the back of one head in the rear.......

put another bolt (with washer) thru chain and into the front of the head on the other side.

hook lift to chain. if the trans is on it, hook the lift farther to the rear of the motor... if its jsut the engine, do it in about the middle.


lift.


whats so hard about that?

 

Nothing. Some guys like the neat tools. I have a lift for example. Couldn't work on a car w/out one anymore.. But for some things a chain works fine.

-- Joe

 

yup.

btw, intresting story from last weekend.... i had to pull the engine/trans from a 82 camaro... i got the lift there assembled it... had the trailer ready to go(didnt have a truck so i rental a Uhaul for $10 and towed it with a buddys car)

then i realized... no chain to hook the motor too.. DOH.

i took one of the saftey chains off the u haul, used that.... nice and extra thick




theres being ghetto and being stupid. hanging the engine, or prying on it the engine trans liek that is stupid.

ghetto would be using a boat anchor chain with the anchor still on it to get it out....
or wrapping a tow strap around a big tree and using a ratcheting come-along to hoist the engine out (ive done that a few times)

stupid is still having your engine hanging like that long enough to take pictures the next day.

 

Next day? Uhhh, you need to re-read.

 

If you can't even unload it out of a pickup, what makes you think that you can actually put it in your car. I mean damn, unbolting a transmission and hooking up a chain isn't rocket science. Good luck.

 

Alright well if you got something negative to say like that, just don't bother posting, i've already pulled my 3.1 and i've pulled a few motors, most of the ones i've pulled are the old types where they usually had the hooks on the exhaust manifolds to pull them out of.

Im pretty damn sure I can get it in my car, don't need someone to comment on how im going to do something.

 

The fork / throwout bearing thing isn't exactly intuitive.

Then again, he ignored my post, so I hope he has fun.

 

Yea welll , I didn't exactly know how this clutch setup was done, I thought all the T-56's had the pull style clutch, it just occured to me these are the LS1 clutches that do that. Any hoot, like I said, its been down for a while, infact those pictures were posted after the engine was set down.

Its sitting on the crate right in front of my beautiful maro, I already cleaned it up a bit and this weekend the surgery begins. And for the last damn time, I know it was done wrong, read the whole damn post rather than skimming, this is for YOUR amusement, if you don't get a kick out of it fine, I did.

<sarcasm>I mean hell, I always lift motors i've just spent 2k+ on like this, I mean there just isn't a better way </sarcasm>

 

Hey don't get all bent out of shape, look at how you titled this post and then posted pictures of a pretty nice combo for your car hanging by an exhaust manifold. BTW an old tire without the rim works real good for setting an engine down on without bending or breaking anything.

 

Yea well, like I said its in a crate at the moment. I've said this a few times in the post, believe me man, i did not want it this way, I've spent over 2k+ to get that thing to my front door one slip and its down the drain.

I wanted that thing down as fast as possible(after it was out of the truck), no damage occured, no one got hurt, I definatley don't recommend this to anyone, like I said, it was for humour, I didn't have to say a word about this, but figured people might be up for a good laugh.

 

Don't worry dude, I'm not going to cap on you about how you pulled you motor, well, not exactly anyways! I'm hoping that you were just too short on time to get a decent sling for that hoist though! Using one of those chains with the big hooks on the ends is like clapping with one hand, or trying to thread machine screws with mittens on! I learned a long time ago that a chain with no hooks on the end and links that are big enough to fit a 3/8" bolt through seems to work the best. I have to agree with Anesthes that a set of the good old factory lift loops are always handy to have around, but even if you don't have those, if you just have open link chain, you can always thread 3/8" bolts with big washers through the intake holes, accesory holes in the heads, or the exhaust manifold bolts. I found the perfect engine sling at a marine shop. They had these nice thick chains they sell for trailer safety chains that are about 2 ft. long. I think I only paid about 5 bucks for it, and it's been a killer engine sling! I gotta agree with you though, even though that's an extremely dangerous way to jerk a motor, the pictures are a riot!

 

theres being ghetto and being stupid. hanging the engine, or prying on it the engine trans liek that is stupid.

ghetto would be using a boat anchor chain with the anchor still on it to get it out....
or wrapping a tow strap around a big tree and using a ratcheting come-along to hoist the engine out (ive done that a few times)

stupid is still having your engine hanging like that long enough to take pictures the next day.
____________YOu forgot one mr, there is being an *******, reading someones post on his engine swap and how hes doing this himself and how he had a hard time getting the engine etc and making negative comments is being an *******. Clasic case of 3rd gen assholism!

 

 

Why didn't you go to autozone and pay the 12 dollars for an engine hoist chain????? As a matter of fact they rent it for free!!!!

All you do is get some slightly longer bolts to put in the intake and hook it to the chain. Then the chain connects to the hook on your engine hoist. WTF were you thinking?!?! I thought I did some stupid things, but this takes the cake.

 

ANOTHER NOTE TO POTENTIAL ENGINE PULLERS LOOKING FOR EDUCATION THAT READ THIS THREAD.

It is by no means safe to wrap a chain around a exhaust manifold and pull a drivetrain.

The iron exhaust manifolds go through uncountable heat cycles and becomes very brittle, they crack all the time.

DO NOT HOOK AN EXHAUST MANIFOLD.
DO NOT RUSH AN ENGINE REMOVAL.
TAKE YOUR TIME, DO NOT HURT YOURSELF, OR YOUR FRIENDS!!!