High stall with highway gears?

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Mar 16, 2005 | 08:17 AM
  #1  
From what I've read it seems like it is best to have at least a 3.73 rear to have anything above a 2500 stall 10" converter. Otherwise it overheats.

I am looking seriously at a Midwest or Edge 3000 stall converter but have 3.23s. I'd like to go higher gears but... 93 octane does not come cheap these days...

You guys with higher stall, 9-10" converters - what kind of rear gears are you running and/or are you happy with your high stall even if it happens to have highway gears?? Any overheating issues or bogging down at all??
Thanks
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Mar 16, 2005 | 11:42 AM
  #2  
i got my tranny rebuilt with a performance kit from a local race shop. its built for about 450hp

i got a Edge 2800stall (more like 3000) put in and its a 9.5inch converter

i still have 2.77's and can run high 13's at 96mph in the 1/4
its just a stock L98 with headers/airbox mod/exhaust/suspension

i have no bogging what so ever.... it picks up and goes. it actually is kinda difficult to take advantage of the stall on the street on launch cuz it will spin the tires with ease and i got some decent street zrated tires...
with new 3.27's i got goin in, it will be near perfect.....

as far as overheating, i havent be able to notice... i dont have a tranny guage, but am going to get a aftermarket tranny cooler to replace the stock one. rearend seems stout as ever for 140+K miles on it....

i say you should be ok
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Mar 16, 2005 | 10:18 PM
  #3  
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ

as far as overheating, i havent be able to notice... i dont have a tranny guage
Well.....aaaa....I'll just leave it alone I guess

It wont be so much hard on your convertor, but I promise it'll be hard on the tranny clutches. All the extra heat generated from using a high stall and hwy gears will get fluid nice and hot so they can turn your clutches into peanut brittle.

But going back to the quote, I guess sometimes a person is just better off not knowing what's really happening so you don't worry about it...kinda like your girlfreind cheatin on ya. That's why they make a volume control on your radio, when the car starts making funny nosies, you turn up the volume so you dont hear the nosie anymore
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Mar 17, 2005 | 05:14 PM
  #4  
As long as you're using a lockup converter its not much of an issue.
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Mar 17, 2005 | 05:55 PM
  #5  
The smaller gears make the converter seem looser, so you need a little more rpm to get moving from a stop. It really doesn't matter unless you are trying to go uphill from a stop, or trying to go over a speed- bump from a stop, otherwise you just get used to the looseness.
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Mar 17, 2005 | 07:44 PM
  #6  
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Well.....aaaa....I'll just leave it alone I guess
what are u trying to say???

they have tranny temp gauges

how else are you to know whats going on down there? am i suppose to go down and check it out by touching it or something.

was the overheating issue about the motor overheating or the tranny? if you have a tranny cooler, it shouldnt be aproblem as long as its lock up
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Mar 17, 2005 | 07:59 PM
  #7  
You have no idea what is going on internally if you do not have a trans temp gauge so you have no idea if it's "really" hurting your tranny or not. The way I took eveything upto that point was people saying I got this or that and it works fine, with no real facts to back it up. Just because you have'nt had problems YET does'nt mean it's working fine, just means you've been lucky.

For the record I'm not directly picking on you either, just using that comment you made as an attention grabber.

High stalls and numerically low gears are a bad combination.
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Mar 17, 2005 | 11:43 PM
  #8  
Well, just like anything else, there is always a compromise. Save the tranny at the expense of increased engine wear and higher gas bills or replace the tranny cluthes sooner...

I drive my car more than race it so I choose to throw the money at clutches If I put in 3.73s or more I might as well go get the TH350 cuz gas mileage is going to suck.

I decided to get the Midwest 3000 stall converter with lockup. Not a bad deal for $530 + $18 shipping. You also get a 2 yr. warranty and 1 restall or a cleaning in case the tranny goes boom.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 07:28 AM
  #9  
yeah, thats why i said it seems fine now...... it has been working good and is a nice combo as is. other than the fact that it might be heating up which i doubt, it has been great and reliable. not too much different from stock. i know that it heats up down there cuz thats how i blew my first trans, i fryed the 3-4 clutches and made a nice 2 speed out of it

it might be getting abit hot, but i am not concerned too much as my beefed up tranny should be able to handle that for awhile as its all new and has 9 clutches in the 3-4 region instead of the stock 6.....
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Mar 18, 2005 | 02:01 PM
  #10  
Run it with a nice tranny cooler and try go get a converter with a lock-up clutch and you should be fine.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 07:03 PM
  #11  
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Originally posted by TunedPort 335
Run it with a nice tranny cooler and try go get a converter with a lock-up clutch and you should be fine.
Ditto. Aftermarket cooler are the only way to go as the stock one only runs your tranny fluid next to the hot antifreeze...The lockup will prevent any slipping when at speed and that'll keep the tranny much cooler.
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Mar 19, 2005 | 09:07 PM
  #12  
What IHI is saying is, people make comments about things that they really have no idea about? It's like when someone asks how they like their new intake. It's working great for me. What kind of ignorant answer is that? Of course it's working some, the car starts and drives. Just like someone saying they have no overheating problems but have no gauge. How in the heck can you even make a statement like that? I'm not picking on your or anyone else, it's just stupid comments like that, that people make, have no factual basis on anything.
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Mar 20, 2005 | 10:35 AM
  #13  
ding ding ding, we have a winner!!! Somebody that finally gets it!!
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May 6, 2005 | 11:09 PM
  #14  
IHI...you think this is a big problem with a lock-up converter and a transmission cooler?
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May 7, 2005 | 08:07 AM
  #15  
Once your upto speed I dont think it will be a problem, it's just getting upto speed that may cause some issues.

A big ole cooler will help, but you'd be amazed at how fast tranny temps can flare up under certain driving conditions.
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