fbodman

Are the 1982-83 T-10s from F-bodies any stronger than a T-5?

flaming-ford

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the bw super t10 is a good bit stronger than a t5.

fbodman

Is that the t10 found from 82-83? If its stronger why did was it replaced by the t-5?

flaming-ford

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i beleive there were 2 different kinds of t-10s someone will chime in but, yes the bw super t10 was 1 that was available in 1982 at least (neighbor has 1 in his 82 maro). It handles his 400-450hp quite easily it seems anyways so they are most definetly tougher than a t5.

As for why gm switched to a t5 well maybe different ratios maybe people just wanted a 5 speed. Maybe the bw was more expensive as i'm not a gm market research guy i couldn't realy tell you.
Best gm question of all being why did they stop making f-bodys?
i honestly don't know. All i know is they didn't sell half as many as they should have in there later years.

Sonix

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in 82-83 you could get the crappy saginaw ( reverse in bottom left), or the good T10 (reverse is top left). The T10 is very strong from what i've heard, and is a good solid close ratio trans.

The T5 is an overdrive trans, and overdrive was becoming the way of the future, so cars were swapped over to that.

ZZ4 86 Z28

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are these bw t10s hard to find. and how much do they usually go for? would it be much different than swapping from auto to a t5? thanks a lot.

Sonix

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yes, i'm pretty sure they're hard to find.

if you already have the standard, it'd be easier then swapping from one standard to another, then auto->stick....

you could probably re-use the hydraulic clutch setup, but you'd need a different driveshaft I think, and torque arm.

Why downgrade to a non-od trans though?

ZZ4 86 Z28

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well i wanted to do a manual conversion anyways, and i wanted to rest assured about being able to handle my motor. and yea, t56 is a little higher priced than i was looking for.

and what about bw t10s from other years? like late 70s, are those useable in our cars, or too much work? thanks.

Air_Adam

The T10s designed for 3rdgens are difficult to find... took me 2 years to find a good setup from an '82 Trans Am!!

The older T10s from the 60s and 70s will work, BUT you must have a swap kit for it, which means a torque arm mounted somewhere other than the side of the trans, because there is nowhere to bolt it onto the trans on any but the 3rdgen-specific T10s.

Spohn (see sponsors at the top of the page) makes a crossmember/torque arm kit to install an old-style 4-speed in a 3rdgen chassis.

ZZ4 86 Z28

iTrader: (1)

what else would you need besides the regular t5 swap stuff if you went from a 700r4 to a t10? is it the same stuff?

is this the third gen one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/camar...QQcmdZViewItem

that swap stuff is way too expensive for the older t10s.

Air_Adam

You'll need a longer driveshaft as well, since the T10 is shorter.

I can't tell if thats a 3rdgen T10 or not, I can't see the torque are mounting holes, which would be right under the shifter.

Roxbury85IROC

Any way to tell exactly what I have here? The 12-17-64 casting is throwing me off...it's a 9 bolt steel case 3 ring T10....any info on this trans would be appreciated.

sofakingdom

iTrader: (1)

Looks like the EXTREMELY wide ratio version (2.9x 1st gear if memory serves), by the 3 bands cut in the clutch splines; non-"Super" (10-spline 1-1/16" clutch); doesn't look like a 3rd gen one at all of course. Looks like the BH has the large dia hole for the clutch gear bearing retainer, which means it's out of a truck.

Probably out of a mid-60s truck.

Bow_Tied

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OP: Give D and L call, they really know their stuff and stand behind their work. I bought a rebuilt muncie from them years ago, still runs great.

http://www.dandltransmission.com/