Car pulls even while stopped....
Car pulls even while stopped....
Every morning, the first few minutes my car is on is a little strange. This is the time when the idle is higher as the car warms up.
It takes more force applied to the brakes to get the car to stop. It's like the car is still pulling even when I'm not on the gas -- it still wants to keep moving at idle.
There's nothing wrong with my throttle cable...it's not too short, or catching on anything.
Is there something wrong with my transmission? Is my torque converter not disengaging? Is something about my idle messed up?
Thanks
It takes more force applied to the brakes to get the car to stop. It's like the car is still pulling even when I'm not on the gas -- it still wants to keep moving at idle.
There's nothing wrong with my throttle cable...it's not too short, or catching on anything.
Is there something wrong with my transmission? Is my torque converter not disengaging? Is something about my idle messed up?
Thanks
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Car: 94 25th TA
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I switched from drum brakes to disk and my car also does that when it is cold and idleing high. Probally cause I haven't switch prop. valves yet. Not sure what your problem is, but it might be something with the brakes
Re: Car pulls even while stopped....
Originally posted by v8unleashed
Every morning, the first few minutes my car is on is a little strange. This is the time when the idle is higher as the car warms up.
It takes more force applied to the brakes to get the car to stop. It's like the car is still pulling even when I'm not on the gas -- it still wants to keep moving at idle.
There's nothing wrong with my throttle cable...it's not too short, or catching on anything.
Is there something wrong with my transmission? Is my torque converter not disengaging? Is something about my idle messed up?
Thanks
Every morning, the first few minutes my car is on is a little strange. This is the time when the idle is higher as the car warms up.
It takes more force applied to the brakes to get the car to stop. It's like the car is still pulling even when I'm not on the gas -- it still wants to keep moving at idle.
There's nothing wrong with my throttle cable...it's not too short, or catching on anything.
Is there something wrong with my transmission? Is my torque converter not disengaging? Is something about my idle messed up?
Thanks
Last edited by kaptinkafeen; Feb 15, 2006 at 08:55 PM.
Your engine operates on vacuum.... the IAC could possible be contirbuting to how much air your engine is sucking in. You mentioned that the car pulls even when stops - "It's like the car is still pulling even when I'm not on the gas -- it still wants to keep moving at idle." I take that to mean at idle?
Again you have not told us if the problem goes away when the car warms up...
Again you have not told us if the problem goes away when the car warms up...
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well if its an auto it just makes sense that it would do that cause the faster the engine spins the more pressure its puting on the Convertor.
Originally posted by kaptinkafeen
Again you have not told us if the problem goes away when the car warms up...
Again you have not told us if the problem goes away when the car warms up...
The first few minutes..........goes away when it warms up.
[i]the IAC could possible be contirbuting to how much air your engine is sucking in. [/B]
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Well if the engine idle increases due to let's say a vacuum leak, or a faulty IAC then isn't this what causes the car to accelerate (don't mean to sound disrespectful...) If there is one problem in the TBI system like a faulty IAC then to prevent the car from stalling wouldn't the ECM have to compensate for this added "air" and thus add fuel to the injectors etc?... During warm up ECM is in open loop mode this causes high idle to help warm the car up.
The way I am interpreting the problem triggers my memory with carbed engines that had their chokes engaged for the first few minutes.... The engine would be running at a higher RPM, so while comming to a stop, you would require extra brake pedal force to keep the car from "crawling" foward.... Once the choke was disengaged - the symptoms that you are describing would go away...
The way I am interpreting the problem triggers my memory with carbed engines that had their chokes engaged for the first few minutes.... The engine would be running at a higher RPM, so while comming to a stop, you would require extra brake pedal force to keep the car from "crawling" foward.... Once the choke was disengaged - the symptoms that you are describing would go away...
Originally posted by kaptinkafeen
wouldn't the ECM have to compensate for this added "air" and thus add fuel to the injectors etc?
wouldn't the ECM have to compensate for this added "air" and thus add fuel to the injectors etc?
From what I know about Open loop - the open loop program defines the engine operation where the fueling level is calculated by the ECM with only the input signals from the TPS sensor, from the coolant and or air temperature, and from either the MAP or MAF sensor. During idle conditions the ECM is always comparing actual engine RPM with the programmed desired RPM. Discrepencies between the the values results in the IAC being activated to increase or decrease the air around the throttle plate(s) until the desired engine speed is achieved. Once off idle the IAC has no affect on performance. You state that the problem is occuring at idle. Once the car warms up the ECM starts to read O2 counts, and engine temps....then the ECM triggers closed loop program. (I realize that there are variations here, but this is generally what happens) If your TPS is on the frits this can also potentially be contributing to your idle problem..
-Andrew (sorry about the long response)
-Andrew (sorry about the long response)
Last edited by kaptinkafeen; Feb 15, 2006 at 10:04 PM.
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Originally posted by xplane
well if its an auto it just makes sense that it would do that cause the faster the engine spins the more pressure its puting on the Convertor.
well if its an auto it just makes sense that it would do that cause the faster the engine spins the more pressure its puting on the Convertor.
When the car is warmed up try hitting the gas with your left foot on the brake. The car will pull. Same idea behind idling higher when the engine is cold.
Keep in mind that the car will still 'pull' with the engine warmed up, you're just more used to it. It annoys the crap out of me because I normally drive manual.
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