700R4 tranny problems
700R4 tranny problems
I have an 86 Iroc 5.0 tpi w/700R4 trans. My transmission will hit all four gears, but it will not go into overdrive. I have installed a new 700R4, but I am having the same issue. My engine revs at 3000 rpm at 70 mph. Please help
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Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
I'm a bit confused by what you mean when you say it will "hit all 4 gears" but "won't go into overdrive".
Are you sure it's not going into OD? There's a thing called a TCC (torque convertor clutch). It puts the torque convertor into lockup. If the TCC does not engage, it can seem as if there's no overdrive.
Have you done this: Next time you're doing 70 and the stick's in OD, move it to "D". Do the RPM's change?
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Are you sure it's not going into OD? There's a thing called a TCC (torque convertor clutch). It puts the torque convertor into lockup. If the TCC does not engage, it can seem as if there's no overdrive.
Have you done this: Next time you're doing 70 and the stick's in OD, move it to "D". Do the RPM's change?
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I'm not so sure you want to try downshifting to 3rd at 70 even if it IS in 3rd... maybe a lower speed like 55 (it should be locked up by that time)
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From: Salem, NH
Car: 1999 Chevy Cavalier
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Axle/Gears: it's part of the transmission
try bypassing the TCC,short the pins in your ALDL connector(top left & top right) together with a coule pieces of wire and a switch,engage the switch after 1st gear the TCC should grab tight. this will also eliminate the "syncromesh" that takes place from D-OD.
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"Synchromesh" is in manual transmissions. I have been around 4L60's for a good while, and the only thing that even comes close is a "synchronized shift" wich occurs at the 2-3 shift, when the band releases and the 3-4 clutches applies simultaniously.
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Junkyard, you were right. Your suggestion worked. The ECM gave me a code for the VSS and I read that that directly effects the TCC as you mentioned. I will replace it and hopefully that will solve my O/D problems....Thanks.
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yeahhhhhhhhh! I love fixing things! I learned that from one of Ed Mahers posts a year ago, he claims it gets him another .2 on the 1/4 mi,even though its not the best thing for the transmission. I still have the switch under my dash, Its kind of fun to turn it on once and a while.
thank you GMtech,learn somthin new every day,but I swear it says "synchromesh" OD gear in one of my tech manuals.
thank you GMtech,learn somthin new every day,but I swear it says "synchromesh" OD gear in one of my tech manuals.
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Car: 1986 Firebird
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Transmission: 700R4
I just used that lockup switch at the track. It dropped 0.18 off my time, and gave me an extra 1.7 MPH in the 1/4!
[edit] That was with a lower-than-usual launch speed too; I only went to 1800 rpm, instead of my usual 2000-up. It started raining before I could try a higher launch.
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[This message has been edited by TomP (edited November 15, 2000).]
[edit] That was with a lower-than-usual launch speed too; I only went to 1800 rpm, instead of my usual 2000-up. It started raining before I could try a higher launch.
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