Speed gears for 3.73s needed
Speed gears for 3.73s needed
I recently went from 3.08s to 3.73s with the stock 15 in wheels/tires on the car. The GM dealer told me that they couldn't calibrate the speed for 3.73s but could get it close by putting in gears for 3.42s. What do you all with 3.73s do to recalibrate your speedo?
Help is appreciated,
Jason
Help is appreciated,
Jason
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
You have a 5-speed right? That helps if you tell us.
For a 3.73 ratio and 16" tires, its a 7 tooth drive gear and a 21 tooth driven gear. I dont know if its the same for 15" tires.
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For a 3.73 ratio and 16" tires, its a 7 tooth drive gear and a 21 tooth driven gear. I dont know if its the same for 15" tires.------------------
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From: Wilmington NC
Car: C1500
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Originally posted by Kevin91Z:
You have a 5-speed right? That helps if you tell us.
For a 3.73 ratio and 16" tires, its a 7 tooth drive gear and a 21 tooth driven gear. I dont know if its the same for 15" tires.
You have a 5-speed right? That helps if you tell us.
For a 3.73 ratio and 16" tires, its a 7 tooth drive gear and a 21 tooth driven gear. I dont know if its the same for 15" tires.16's and 15's have the same diameter if they have the stock size tires on, the 16's were lower profile to keep the same diameter.
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You still have to switch the speedo gears. You can alter the "Pulses/mile" in the eprom, but it has no effect on the speedo itself.
Also, NOT changing your speedo gears will affect the running of the ecm if you have not AT LEAST altered the "pulses/mile". There are many tables that are affected by the vehicle speed.
If you swap the gears, the ecm will know that you are travelling the correct speed (since you will still be sending "4000 pulses/mile), but you should adjust some of the tables to add fuel a bit quicker. This even more important with the automatic which controls the locking of the TC based on your vehicle speed.
Also, NOT changing your speedo gears will affect the running of the ecm if you have not AT LEAST altered the "pulses/mile". There are many tables that are affected by the vehicle speed.
If you swap the gears, the ecm will know that you are travelling the correct speed (since you will still be sending "4000 pulses/mile), but you should adjust some of the tables to add fuel a bit quicker. This even more important with the automatic which controls the locking of the TC based on your vehicle speed.
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From: Wilmington NC
Car: C1500
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Ok, I understand now, I was under the wrong impression, the signal comes from the tranny via the Speedo gears/VSS and then goes to the Speedo and the ecm independently? Right?
And after a gear swap it would be a good idea to tune the chip for the gears but it isn't absolutely necessary right?
And after a gear swap it would be a good idea to tune the chip for the gears but it isn't absolutely necessary right?
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No, with the manual, it is not as critical to adjust the eprom as it would be for an automatic (due to the locking of the TC).
But, a customized prom, programmed by your own hands, would definitely help. Nobody is going to put as much time and effor to get that elusive "perfect" chip as you will.
But, a customized prom, programmed by your own hands, would definitely help. Nobody is going to put as much time and effor to get that elusive "perfect" chip as you will.
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