WC T-5 to handle 383?
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From: Temecula, CA
Car: '99 Cobra
Engine: 4.6 DOHC 32V
Transmission: T-45
Axle/Gears: 4.10
WC T-5 to handle 383?
I am being offered a fully built 383 (minus the heads) by one of my friends who was going to put it into his '89 IROC but changed his mind. I have a WC T-5 and my mechanic said it could handle the power, but I just wanted a 2nd (or 3rd) opinion. My mechanic owns a chevelle and a nova and builds them up to run 10s, 9s and i think the nova has seen high 8s
Anyway, any opinions on this? Thanks a lot!
Eric
Anyway, any opinions on this? Thanks a lot!
Eric
it depends how built the engine is, if its real mild it SHOULD be allright, but it its pretty built your going to be playing russian rolette with that trans, it is way too weak to handle the 383's torque
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From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
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Well in reality you got a short block. Now you have to figure out what heads and stuff your gonna put on it. You can put factory heads, and make it a 14 second motor, or you can put like brodix heads on it and make it
a 10 second motor.
If this is gonna be a street driven car, I'm not sure if you're gonna ever see 10s. I have a buddy with a 383 powered Camaro, drag only car. 10.94 e/t. Could never be driven on the street with that cam/timing. And if it had street cam/timing it would be a 12 second car.
-- Joe
(btw I use a T5)
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Cloyes Double Roller, timing chain, Mellings oil pump: 13.5 @ 100.23 MPH
Since close of track : Ported SLP runners, Ported Plenum, AFPR, Autometer 100lbs gauge, A/F ratio gauge.
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a 10 second motor.
If this is gonna be a street driven car, I'm not sure if you're gonna ever see 10s. I have a buddy with a 383 powered Camaro, drag only car. 10.94 e/t. Could never be driven on the street with that cam/timing. And if it had street cam/timing it would be a 12 second car.

-- Joe
(btw I use a T5)
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1989 Formula 350 4-bolt mains, Forged .030 TRW pistons, SLP 51010 Roller Cam, Comp-cams roller lifters,
Summit 1.5 roller rockers, World Products Sportsman II 2.02/1.60 heads, Edelbrock TPI Intake,
Cloyes Double Roller, timing chain, Mellings oil pump: 13.5 @ 100.23 MPH
Since close of track : Ported SLP runners, Ported Plenum, AFPR, Autometer 100lbs gauge, A/F ratio gauge.
http://www.joesperformance.com
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Car: '99 Cobra
Engine: 4.6 DOHC 32V
Transmission: T-45
Axle/Gears: 4.10
Assuming some world heads with appropriate cam/valve lift, will the world class T-5 hold the power? I think it will, it is the clutch I am worried about burning out (I would eventually get a DF Friction one)
thanks a lot!
Eric
thanks a lot!
Eric
I have a T5 behind my 350. It puts out a lot of torque. It's fine so far. It's ALL in HOW you drive it !
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I know a guy with a Trans Am that he put a built 350 in with a T5. It lasted maybe 9 months in his mid/low 12 second car (probably 100+ races) before it went BANG.
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Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DuffMan:
Assuming some world heads with appropriate cam/valve lift, will the world class T-5 hold the power? I think it will, it is the clutch I am worried about burning out (I would eventually get a DF Friction one)
thanks a lot!
Eric</font>
Assuming some world heads with appropriate cam/valve lift, will the world class T-5 hold the power? I think it will, it is the clutch I am worried about burning out (I would eventually get a DF Friction one)
thanks a lot!
Eric</font>
I've got almost 500 ft/lbs at the flywheel and a couple dozen races, and so far, so good. But I have a T56 waiting to go in.
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From: Temecula, CA
Car: '99 Cobra
Engine: 4.6 DOHC 32V
Transmission: T-45
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Anybody have any experiece with those WC trannies? Are they equal in strength to the tremecs? Also, what action is it that actually causes the tranny to break? I have always had slipping clutches from launching a lot (and hard
), and the reason my old tranny died was from worn out synchros that destroyed the tranny
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), and the reason my old tranny died was from worn out synchros that destroyed the trannythanks in advance!
Eric
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
No, a WCT5 is only slightly better than a regular T5. The WCT5 came on 88-92 thirdgens. A Tremec 5-speed is a special aftermarket 5-speed built to handle the power.
I dont know specifically what is bad about a T5, other than the weak casing and weak third gear.
I dont know specifically what is bad about a T5, other than the weak casing and weak third gear.
Would changing the shifter to something like a PRO 5.0 help it any?
I would like to keep my tranny, but possibly buy an extra (since they aren't expensive) and learn how to rebuild it...that way I can shift like I want and have an extra just in case.
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I would like to keep my tranny, but possibly buy an extra (since they aren't expensive) and learn how to rebuild it...that way I can shift like I want and have an extra just in case.
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You better baby it until you can get a ritchmond or put a 6speed in it.It can't handle that kind of tq.Have fun while you
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
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If it breaks a gear it will take out the cluster gear also, those two parts will set you back as much as buying another trans.
So.... be careful!
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So.... be careful!
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'92 CAMARO RS
305 TBI 5/spd (now TPI)
B4C Alt.
Cam change:TRW 198/210 ,450/.460 114 LSA
Stock TBI manifolds
'85 IROC 3" Cat. back Exhaust
14.94-92.00 mph
SDPC base and "350" Vortec coming soon!
'69 camaro-BB/Lenco,1050 dominators, /Pump Gas/no drugs 8.97-150+/3200lbs.
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From: Lk. Ronkonkoma, Long Island N.Y., U.S.A.
Car: 1991 Firebird Formula
Engine: 383 Supercharged and Intercooled
Transmission: 6-Speed
Axle/Gears: Stock 10 bolt 3.42
Don't power shift. Don't use slicks like Hoosiers or Mickey Thompsons.
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383CI Superram, Sportman II's
SLP Cam 214/224 .470/.490
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5-speed
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on Drag Radials
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'91 Formula
383CI Superram, Sportman II's
SLP Cam 214/224 .470/.490
Vortech V1 S-Trim with custom 8 rib pullies
5-speed
3.42
12.34@117.04, 1.91 60Ft.
on Drag Radials
I have a non-world class 5 speed in my car right now. I've ran a best of 8.54 in the 8th mile. This was spinning in first gear. I've gone through two clutches and just now a rear end. The tranny has almost 200,000 miles on it. The trick is to not powershift or not to run anything but street tires. No Dr's.
Thanks,
Jason
Thanks,
Jason
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