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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 02:17 AM
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ID rear end?

Can someone tell me what rear this is?

Car it a 3'gen... Cant se no Torque arm...
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 02:41 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

Looks like regular ten bolt thirdgen rear without the torque arm in place. If you try to drive it like that is will be noisy as the rear yoke will find the floorboard.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 03:24 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

its on a car 4-sale and the seller (who bought it from another guy..) have the info thats its custom built ........
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

Agreed. Just yerbasic car that somebody has been working on, with the torque arm taken off and not put back on.

Can't be driven like that.

I'm assuming, sold as "non-running"?

Doesn't look "custom-built" to me. More like, "custom not-fully-assembled yet".
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

It's a Chevy 12 bolt that has been modified to fit the 3rd gen Camaro. It probably has the lower controll arms welded solid to act like ladder bars. More pictures of the suspension would be very helpfull.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

I am pretty sure you can see the torque arm mount on the left side and the nose is pointing upward just like when you take the torque arm off. The pics could be a lot if you want a positive ID.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

That's not a 10 bolt. Look at the bottom 2 bolts on the diff cover in the last picture. There's 2 bolts straight across the bottom. No 10 bolt has that configuration. I'm pretty sure it's not a 9 bolt or a Dana 44. The bolt pattern looks like a 12 bolt and in that last picture, you can easily see a torque arm mount on the side of the diff.

Based on those pictures, looks like it's got an aftermarket, bolt in 12 bolt without the required torque arm attached. It will need a torque arm.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

Not a 9 bolt cause it has a fill plug in the side. It would also plainly say borg warner under the pinion if it was. It appears to be smooth under the pinion where the raised print would be.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

Sold as a project with broken tranny... I have saved my old torque arm so that not a problem........

Just curios about the rear since I need a strong one for my current car 415cui+procharger F1, buying a new rear will cost me about 1000$ less than this car.....
But need to be sure about the rear, and dont want to drive just to look, will se If I can get more pictures...
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

Have been using google some

Look alot like a mark williams 12bolt, if you look at the torque arm mount and the house moulding.......





Some other thing I have to consider....looks like it has drum brakes
- how much work/cost would it to change to discs?
- What gears? price on a gear change?
- What yoke has it?
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

Strange offers the same thing

http://www.strangeengineering.net/catalog/077.html
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

yeah I know, but looking at the Torquearm mount in the first pictures it looks like the M.W... but need to find more picture of strange version....

and if you look at the square molding just behid the "plug" on the RH side it looks more like the M.W
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

Got email today and its supposed to be a Dana rear?
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

Bolt pattern on the cover is wrong. It's not a Dana 44 or Dana 60
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

The diff is a Detroit True Track 3.73......Still no info or more pictures
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

Detroit True Trac, made by Eaton, is the posi (carrier) that's in the diff. The diff itself still looks like a 12 bolt.

http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc...troitTruetrac/
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Re: ID rear end?

Originally Posted by gta324
The diff is a Detroit True Track 3.73......Still no info or more pictures
at this point, i wouldn't totally believe anything they guy says the rear has or doesnt. Its obvious he doesnt really know what he's doing, or what he has.

It seems to be a 12 bolt, as for the innards, only way to really know would be to pop the cover.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:50 AM
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Re: ID rear end?

Hmmm... Talked to the speedshop who sold it and he said it problably was a moser 12-bolt.
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