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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Can't put car in gear

Okay, so here's what happend. I decided to wash my car yesterday, and when I was done, I wanted to take it out and show it off a bit. Well I backed out of the driveway and shifted into first and let my foot off the clutch, I then proceeded to put it into second, only it did not go in. I then tried to put it back into first and it wouldn't go. I can no longer shift into any gear. I've inspected both the master and the slave cylinders for the clutch and have replaced the slave cylinder thinking this might be the culprit (with as worn as it looked). Unfortunately the car does the same thing. Everything seems to function up to and including the fork that moves the clutch, and even the clutch fork seems to be in the right place. I'm all out of ideas. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!

Here's a video of what happens when I push in the clutch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54NIuNAqjGs

also attached are pictures of the slave cylinder and the clutch fork that goes into the transmission
Attached Thumbnails Can't put car in gear-clutch-fork.jpg   Can't put car in gear-slave-cylinder.jpg  
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

your sure it is engaging all the way? and not just moving some?
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

Will the car go into gear sitting still with the engine off?
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

I'm pretty sure the slave cylinder is traveling it's full distance when I apply the clutch. And yes, when the engine is off, I am able to put the car in gear, but it feels the same whether I apply the clutch or not.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

Put the car in gear (engine off), have someone push in the clutch. Try to push the car either forward or backwards. If the clutch is releasing you should be able to do it fairly easily.

It sounds like your master cylinder may have given up. Or you may have not gotten all the fluid out of the system when you put the new slave on.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

Originally Posted by toomany
Put the car in gear (engine off), have someone push in the clutch. Try to push the car either forward or backwards. If the clutch is releasing you should be able to do it fairly easily.

It sounds like your master cylinder may have given up. Or you may have not gotten all the fluid out of the system when you put the new slave on.
Well here's the weird part. I see that the clutch fork moves when I press on the clutch pedal, so it seems like there shouldn't be any problems with the master or the slave. I know the transmission works because in order to get the car home I had to start the car in 1st. I had the pedal all the way to the floor, but the car grabbed when I turned the starter as if I didn't press it at all. I then got it into 2nd by matching the rpm of the engine to the gear so it would slip in without the clutch. from there I couldn't go under 5mph without stalling... interesting experience, but I don't want to have to do it again.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

Sounds like it's time to pop the trans out and see what's fornicated.

The clutch is ruined somehow. Either the diaphragm is broken, the trans pilot is welded to the pilot bushing, or some such.

Posting on here about it probably won't get you any closer to a fix. Time to turn some bolts.

Since it only takes about 20 minutes to pull a T-5 out of one of these cars, then in the time it takes to make a new post telling me some story about some excuse you have about why you don't want to do it, you could already have it done and all your questions answered. Just man up to it and do it.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
Sounds like it's time to pop the trans out and see what's fornicated.

The clutch is ruined somehow. Either the diaphragm is broken, the trans pilot is welded to the pilot bushing, or some such.

Posting on here about it probably won't get you any closer to a fix. Time to turn some bolts.

Since it only takes about 20 minutes to pull a T-5 out of one of these cars, then in the time it takes to make a new post telling me some story about some excuse you have about why you don't want to do it, you could already have it done and all your questions answered. Just man up to it and do it.
LOL alright. I don't mind doing it myself. I just always hope to find the simple solution to a complicated problem. Thanks everyone for your intrest and help
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

Originally Posted by MaxPower86
LOL alright. I don't mind doing it myself. I just always hope to find the simple solution to a complicated problem. Thanks everyone for your intrest and help
when you were driving, did you have clutch slippage?

If not, your description sure sounds like a hydraulic issue (master and slave)

I always replace BOTH on all of my manny trannys when I run into that issue.
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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Re: Can't put car in gear

Master/ Slave cylinders have been replaced. Is it possible to move the transmission from the bellhousing while it's still on the car, and then remove the bellhousing to get to the clutch assembly?
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