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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Took my car into the tranny shop today, don't want to get ripped off. Anyone know what this problem could be? It's a rebuilt tranny within 7 years, and less than 50,000 miles, probably not even 25,000 miles!! When you really get up on the gas from a stand still tranny hits hard shifting from 1st to 2nd, like someone's hitting the bottom of the car...looked at tranny mount, it is in excellent condition for the age of car...1992 Camaro RS 305

any help MUCH appreciated!!
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Depends what it actually sounds like.. Did it just start happening? Mine shifts VERY hard even in part throttle. This happened right after the rebuild as I had asked for hard shifts (corvette servos, higher pressure pump etc.). Could be a performance transmission for all we know?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

I've had the car for two years now, I'd love it if it was performance built, but this problem has only happened in the last month! It literally feels and sounds like someone is taking a hammer in hitting right under the center console, and it jerks the whole damn car lol
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 01:55 AM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

broken trans mount maybe?
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 01:58 AM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Then it is the transmission mount, even if it looks good unless there are some bolts missing or loose on the mount. As for the 1-2 hard shifts, the transmission builder porbably blocked the accumulator or used the B&M valve body kit. Either way that is not good in the "long run". Part throttle shifts should not be very noticeable, just WOT shifts.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

^X2. I had the same problem. Mine looked good while in the car too......but it came out in 2 pieces. I now have a nice dent where the balancer on my aluminum driveshaft was hitting the tranny tunnel.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

check the mount and make sure your tv cable is adjusted correctly
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Originally Posted by BigRogZ28
Took my car into the tranny shop today, don't want to get ripped off. Anyone know what this problem could be? It's a rebuilt tranny within 7 years, and less than 50,000 miles, probably not even 25,000 miles!! When you really get up on the gas from a stand still tranny hits hard shifting from 1st to 2nd, like someone's hitting the bottom of the car...looked at tranny mount, it is in excellent condition for the age of car...1992 Camaro RS 305

any help MUCH appreciated!!
That sound is too patented to be anything else but a bad tranny mount.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Agree to all above.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Well, got my car back today, they say tranny needs completely rebuilt....should I believe them?
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Originally Posted by BigRogZ28
Well, got my car back today, they say tranny needs completely rebuilt....should I believe them?
I would definitly get a second opinion.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

I'm not great with tranny lingo, but they said a spring was broken in the 1st gear and that third and overdrive were slipping, and something else I can't remember. I did have them put on a polyurethane tranny mount and the bang/hard shift is still there. I really don't want to get my tranny rebuilt...BUT might be a good time to look into a beefed up 700r4 now for the same money as getting this one rebuilt! I dunno...any suggestions!
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

There are many used r4's out there that would bolt in. If you are concerned about spending lots of money, this would be a viable alternative. Tranny shops will insert there hands deep into your pocket.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 01:53 AM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Is the 1-2 shift hard? Or just making a noise? Does it make the noise at all throttle openings? How does the transmission shift to you? Are all 4 gears there? Does torque converter lockup work alright? If these things are ok....... then the transmission shop just wants your money.
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

My tranny mount was bad and looked ok from under car. The rubber was actually seperated from the metal. you can't tell unless you remove and inspect. When hitting the gas from a stop the tranny would hit on bottom of the floor. Replaced with ploy mount and all is good.
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Originally Posted by xX89RSXx
My tranny mount was bad and looked ok from under car. The rubber was actually seperated from the metal. you can't tell unless you remove and inspect. When hitting the gas from a stop the tranny would hit on bottom of the floor. Replaced with ploy mount and all is good.
Just out of curiosity, did you replace the mount, or was it the shop that told you you needed a complete rebuild?
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

I am going through the same scenario with hard shifting, also shifts hard going into gear. when inched forward or reverse sounds like a small clicking(universal joints?). shifts better after gone through to OD.
This was rebuilt with shift kit HP.
is this TV linkage?
Fluid smells ok, level ok.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Re: 700r4 shifting hard from 1st into 2nd...

Originally Posted by BigRogZ28
I've had the car for two years now, I'd love it if it was performance built, but this problem has only happened in the last month! It literally feels and sounds like someone is taking a hammer in hitting right under the center console, and it jerks the whole damn car lol
I would look at the torque arm bushing as well as the mount
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