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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

im replacing my old 700r4 with a rebuilt on on the new tranny i cant get the torque converter to lock on to place like the teeth idk.. idk what to do cause it goes on the old one just fine and its fit all the other trannys i have put it on... any ideas?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Do you have the same spline count on the new and old input shafts?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

def want to check that out, 87and earlier have 27 88-91 have 30.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

No, the cut-off for the spline count change is mid-84. In 87 the major change was the auxiliary valvebody.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

oh yeah -.- thats what that is, i thought the splines where changed more recently then that though, thats really interesting to know myself thanks =] So i have a question myself, could you tell me the differences in the auxiliary valvebody? What does that help or do exactly, how much better is that then the previous trans without the upgrades. Sorry for not starting a new thread, but im about to purchase a 89 tranny from a firebird for my camaro, which has a 27 spline shaft.. also would i need the converter? the driveshaft or could i just take the front part of the drive shaft and use my existing one, i just changed the u joints and bought this one cause my old one cracked. Thanks =]
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

The auxiliary valvebody added forward and reverse accumulators to soften the lurching shift into gear that the earlier units have. There were other changes throughout the main valvebody at the same time.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 03:51 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

i figured it all it was was that it was the new input shaft and the old.. i had an old got a new one now i got my 700r4 in and ready to go but im having a problem with the shifter cable. it shifts in to reverse and drive fine but when i do to shift up on my column it slips out and comes disconnected from the metal bracket.. can someone post a pic of their shifter cable so i can see what im supposed to have in case something is missing or if i need to replace something
?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 03:54 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Well there should be a clip on it to hold it on My camaro is taken apart atm other wise i would take a pick for u
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:04 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

i think i snapped that clip then cause i dont see it.. any ideas on how to fix it?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:06 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Hmmm Let me go find the clip itself in my pile of car parts and i'll snap a pic for u, im sure i can get one out of a junk yard =o if u have one close by and its not a inconvience
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:15 AM
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alright thank you
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:24 AM
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:25 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Let me know if those help you out any =]
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

That's a TV cable, not a shifter cable.

Your shifter is on the column?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

ooo no no no i was mistaken ok so yeah there is no clip mines alittle loose too, i understand now, yeah i can take a pic and put it up but its kinda hard to do, its just a plastic snap on peice though that connects on to the transmission bracket
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

my transmissions out and broke atm so i suppose i really cant untill I go pull the new one, but it is just a plastic peice i can go take a pic of that though so u can get a idea of what it looks like.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Let me know if those help, thats the right thing now, I can go back and take some better ones if need be i tryed to get some light under the car but it seemed to make alot of glare
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Thanks for correcting me yet again Apeiron -.- =]
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 02:21 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

okay so i got everything hooked up and put the fluid in it and lett it ran filled it up and went to take it out but it seemed like it didnt have any power at all soo i went and checked my fluid and it looked like a rusty looking color and i know that its not my tansmission because its rebuilt but it had enough power to go around the block i went around the block and got on it one time and now.. it goes no where? is there a chance that taking it around the block moved some tranny fluid to the torque converter?? and i just need to put more in?? any ideas?? soo mad i have stayed up the last three nights trying to finish it now its done but not done... someone help me??
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

The dipstick is the way to see if it needs more fluid, but yes a whole lot of fluid gets put in the torque converter.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

well i put fluid in it till it was filled on the dipstick and then i let it run for a bit then it needed more fluid soo i was thinking that since i actually drive it it would need more fluid cause it was running
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

you dont wanna ovefill it, if its hot u should fill to a certain line if its cold u should fill to a certian line if u give me a min i'll find that out, but! if you lost fluid in the tourq converter i wanna say the tranny fills that back up in the process of running, but you defenently dont want to have no fluid in there at all, before u start it
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Hey apeiron whats ur IROCS HP? =o
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

The IROC is all stock.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

Also if you dont mind, could you explain gears to me, like rear wheel gears, how much did they caust you to buy just the gears, not installation.. If not i suppose i could not be lazy and look it up :P thanks in advanced =]
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

You'd have to look it up.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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Re: cant get my 700r4 torque converter to lock on

yea i dont fill it if its not running or cold and i didnt know if the tranny would fill the torque converter or not but i guess it does cause i checked it today and it was low put more in it and she runs ))
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