older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
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Car: 1990 LS6 Camaro
Engine: LS6 with a cam basically
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42 rear
older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
The situation: I have a 1990 Camaro RS that was auto to manual swapped (also LS1 and t56 swapped). I have the older style 3rd gen pedals with the clunky pull style Clutch Safety Swtich. I "made" a Clutch safety switch from an 80s truck one (converted it from push to pull... there is a thread on here somewhere) and on the workbench, it works great.
I put my pedals back in the car, but there is NO ROOM for the safety switch. It seems to be the clearance between the fuse box and the clutch position switch for cruise... the Safety Switch needs to go between and there just isn't room (also the "plunger" goes into a mess of wires near the fuse box which I don't like). Has anyone come across this issue before? am I going to need to find newer 3rd gen or 4th gen pedals to use the new button style Safety switch?
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I put my pedals back in the car, but there is NO ROOM for the safety switch. It seems to be the clearance between the fuse box and the clutch position switch for cruise... the Safety Switch needs to go between and there just isn't room (also the "plunger" goes into a mess of wires near the fuse box which I don't like). Has anyone come across this issue before? am I going to need to find newer 3rd gen or 4th gen pedals to use the new button style Safety switch?
Thanks.
Last edited by rearview; Oct 25, 2023 at 03:03 PM. Reason: replaces the word "neutral" with "clutch"
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From: Louisville, KY
Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 385 Fastburn
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: BorgWarner 9-bolt posi, 3.27 gears
Re: older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
Do you feel the need to have it? You can just wire it up to not have one (i.e. jump the contacts so that it thinks the switch is there).
It's just there to prevent you starting the car while in gear.
Heck, if you wanted to you could run wires up to the dash to a traditional toggle switch.
It's just there to prevent you starting the car while in gear.
Heck, if you wanted to you could run wires up to the dash to a traditional toggle switch.
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Car: 1990 LS6 Camaro
Engine: LS6 with a cam basically
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42 rear
Re: older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
Yeah I'm aware I can do without it... I just don't drive a manual every day and I don't want to accidentally put it through the garage door or something. 😀 I also had the thought of wiring it to a toggle switch... Maybe... hmm
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From: Louisville, KY
Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 385 Fastburn
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: BorgWarner 9-bolt posi, 3.27 gears
Re: older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
Ah that’s true lol. I like toggle switches, easy answer to when something doesn’t fit due to whatever reason. Plus with the jet cockpit like feel to these cars it adds to the ambiance haha
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Car: `86 SS / `87 SS
Engine: L69 w/ TPI on top / 305 4bbl
Transmission: `95 T56 \ `88 200-4R
Re: older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
4th gen pedals
Pros: give a higher master cylinder attachment point (appropriate for 4th gen master cylinder travel,)
And the mid-thirdgen-implemented pushbutton switch.
Cons: The 5th bolt up top doesn't line up. Accel. pedal may need trimmed off.
Pros: give a higher master cylinder attachment point (appropriate for 4th gen master cylinder travel,)
And the mid-thirdgen-implemented pushbutton switch.
Cons: The 5th bolt up top doesn't line up. Accel. pedal may need trimmed off.
Last edited by jmd; Oct 26, 2023 at 08:17 PM.
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From: Texas
Car: 1990 LS6 Camaro
Engine: LS6 with a cam basically
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42 rear
Re: older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
I guess I could mention that I did put in a 4th gen brake master cylinder and booster.
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Car: `86 SS / `87 SS
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Transmission: `95 T56 \ `88 200-4R
Re: older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
Sounds like you're up to the challenge of what needs done.
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Re: older 3rd gen pedals in newer car - Neutral Safety switch
It seems like upgrading to newer 3rd gen or 4th gen pedals with a button-style safety switch might be a better fit for your LS1 and T56 swapped Camaro. It could resolve clearance and wiring challenges more effectively.
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