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Old Jul 11, 2024 | 02:16 PM
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Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

Hey all, I recently changed my transmission fluid because mine was black. Cleaned out the pan, changed filter. I'm not sure why my transmission is grinding, I think changing the fluid made an underlying issue come to light. Any tips?

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Old Jul 11, 2024 | 02:30 PM
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Re: Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

I think changing the fluid made an underlying issue come to light.
I think not.

my transmission fluid ... was black
Which no doubt was why you changed the fluid. As you should.

Your transmission was already smoked. It's not impossible that it maybe somewhat worked (to whatever extent) before you changed it because the fluid was thick with gunk, and now it doesn't because the fluid is the right consistency; butt that's NOT the same as "changing the fluid ruined my transmission".

​​​​​​​my transmission is grinding
Not sure what this means, butt it can't be good. That's definitely Abby Someone behavior. I'd be more inclined to include it in the cause and/or effect of the black fluid.
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Old Jul 11, 2024 | 03:35 PM
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Re: Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

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I think not.



Which no doubt was why you changed the fluid. As you should.

Your transmission was already smoked. It's not impossible that it maybe somewhat worked (to whatever extent) before you changed it because the fluid was thick with gunk, and now it doesn't because the fluid is the right consistency; butt that's NOT the same as "changing the fluid ruined my transmission".



Not sure what this means, butt it can't be good. That's definitely Abby Someone behavior. I'd be more inclined to include it in the cause and/or effect of the black fluid.
True, however I know that 700r4s have overheating problems. Which is another factor if the black fluid. It does get pretty humid here in the ky so I don't doubt that's one cause. She was running good before changing fluid. I'm not saying the new fluid is the cause and I don't know how much time is left before the transmission gives out, she still runs and drives. Is there anything I can do or can I only wait until it gives out?
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Old Jul 11, 2024 | 03:55 PM
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Re: Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

It does get pretty humid here in the ky
Good thing you don't live anywhere that it ACTUALLY gets REAL humid then. Try Louisiana, Houston, Florida, for example. Regardless, that doesn't have anything to do with it.

Is there anything I can do
Hard to say. Take care of it, is the best you can do.

​​​​​​​What did you find in the pan?

​​​​​​​can I only wait until it gives out?
Even if it was brand-new, that'd be the case.

Good luck. "Grinding" though, seems likely you won't have to wait long.
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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 03:25 PM
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Re: Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
Good thing you don't live anywhere that it ACTUALLY gets REAL humid then. Try Louisiana, Houston, Florida, for example. Regardless, that doesn't have anything to do with it.



Hard to say. Take care of it, is the best you can do.

What did you find in the pan?



Even if it was brand-new, that'd be the case.

Good luck. "Grinding" though, seems likely you won't have to wait long.
In the pan was of course, black fluid. I washed it out and dried it completely, though there was alot of friction materials. Real thick sludge on the magnet too.
Well, I can't say I didn't expect this. It is the original transmission with the car so I knew this would happen eventually. I might fo some searching in junkyards for a relatively "new" one, or possibly swap to a 5 speed manual.
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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 07:46 PM
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Re: Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

Need more details on the "grinding" sound. How many miles on the tranny?. Grinding noise could be pump sucking air if neck of filter not fully seated or sealing ring out of position-drop pan again and check. Also you know fluid level is supposed to be checked with engine running ?
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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 10:22 PM
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Re: Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

Originally Posted by 8t2 z-chev
Need more details on the "grinding" sound. How many miles on the tranny?. Grinding noise could be pump sucking air if neck of filter not fully seated or sealing ring out of position-drop pan again and check. Also you know fluid level is supposed to be checked with engine running ?
There are about 189,000 miles on the tranny.
yes I am aware of how to check fluid level.
Although you might be right about the filter..... it was wiggling a little bit but I tried to push it up and it wouldn't budge. I pushed it as high as it would go. I did also change out the o-ring seals on the filter.
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 08:26 AM
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Re: Transmission grinding. I think she's done for this time.

That is a decent amount of miles-stator support splines and some other parts will be showing wear.Is the "grinding"an irregular noise or a steady whizz or buzz?
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