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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 08:30 PM
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1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

I'm replacing my gear oil and the plug is leaking. Anyone know where I can get a replacement? I'm a Canadian eh?





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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 09:58 PM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

GET RID OF that STUUUUUUUPID rubber crap.

½" pipe tap. NOT all the way through, VERY gingerly; then a brass pipe plug with about 6 - 8 wraps of Teflon tape. Be careful: if you run the pipe tap too deep, a plug will screw all the way through without ever tightening up. All you need is acoupla threads. Butt hay, once you do this to it, no more STUUUUUUPID rubber plug CRAP to worry about.

Works on Dana rear ends too. They have the same size plug, and it fails and leeeeeeeeeks EXACTLY the same way. Amazing how some mfrs don't learn from what they see going on around them. [sophomore engineering summer intern] "Oh gee... this looks eeeezzzzzie and cheeeeeep... and [respected mfr] does it... if I put this on the drawing everybody will think it's accepted industry practice and I'll get hired when I graduate!!!" [/sophomore engineering summer intern] And that's how STUUUUUUUUUUUPID CRAP like that spreads insidiously throughout an entire industry like a virus.

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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 12:11 AM
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 07:39 AM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

Or you could buy a new plug. I had same issue and found a new one online for a few dollars. The new one is soft and pliable so it sealed up fine.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 08:15 AM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

Do you have a link where I could buy one? I am having a heck of a time finding it.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 08:28 AM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

Would this work?

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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 12:16 PM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

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Would this work?
I'm not sure. It looks Mopar sized but I don't know if they use the same size. I would measure your current and then check sizes online.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 02:28 PM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

I can't seem to find one online so I guess I'll use some RTV on the old one.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 06:57 PM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

The "Mopar" (Dana, actually) plug is about ¾" dia.

I can't for the life of me figure out how something that STUUUUUUPID is used by so many mfrs who should know better. It's ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN to fail, sooner than later. Mystifyingly STUUUUUUUUPID.

I had 3 Cheeeeeeep Bland Cherokees in my driveway together at one time. The females in my household kept buying them for some reason. Same problem. (leeeeeeeeeeeks, crumbles when you try to add fluid,. etc.) Same solution for all (pipe plug). Permanent. Done.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 07:23 PM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

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The "Mopar" (Dana, actually) plug is about ¾" dia.

I can't for the life of me figure out how something that STUUUUUUPID is used by so many mfrs who should know better. It's ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN to fail, sooner than later. Mystifyingly STUUUUUUUUPID.

I had 3 Cheeeeeeep Bland Cherokees in my driveway together at one time. The females in my household kept buying them for some reason. Same problem. (leeeeeeeeeeeks, crumbles when you try to add fluid,. etc.) Same solution for all (pipe plug). Permanent. Done.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 09:34 PM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

Indeed. Oh well, it's not our loss.

RTV won't work on one of those for very long. Brass is MUCH sturdier.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 04:28 AM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

Dorman 65293 is the correct rubber plug. Never had a drop lost after I put this new one into my 9 bolt.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 08:08 AM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

Originally Posted by J.C. Denton
Dorman 65293 is the correct rubber plug. Never had a drop lost after I put this new one into my 9 bolt.
Very helpful information. I too have not lost a drop after installing nice new plug years ago. But Im still scratching my head how this is possible, because Im told this is SSTUUUUUUPID and ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN to fail, sooner than later. Oh well, maybe the new plug will last 30+ years like the original did. I'll be dead by then and the car will have long since gone to the scrap pile. I don't mind if some idiot at the scrap yard looks at that STUUUUUUPID rubber plug and just cannot believe someone would have ever used it.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 10:43 AM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

In all the Cheeeeeps in my driveway, it had failed by about 15 years. Can't imagine it's much different in a 9-bolt. Maybe some people don't mind driving around with rear end grease dripping off their axle for years on end due to that crappy just-get-through-the-warranty-period stupidity, but it disturbs me greatly.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 03:49 PM
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Re: 1985 Borg Warner 9 bolt fill plug

Getting there. Will fill with gear oil tomorrow and install old plug. If plug leaks, will order that Dorman one from Amazon.


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