I took my own stab at the whole ******* ram air thing and bought $10.18 worth of a/c ducting, clamps, etc. I pulled the air dam off (eek!) and ran the tube tight under the car and back up, and attached a conical at the end.. Problem is, I think the conical is paper. Not sure though... I got some pictures.. Btw, this damn thing took 2 hours and about 150 mosquito bites...

 

Nice.
Misquito bites add character, just like scratches on car paint
Can you get a bit better picture of it. Thats a little too small and dark, or atleast I find it that way.

 

No, the pic is hard for me to make out, too. I can see the conical but can't get a good look at the tubing. Congrats on the mod, though, Nixon1! (And you did put the air dam back, right? )

 

If igot bit by 150 mosquitos here I wouldnt have any blood left.
They raise them here to be the size of humming birds.

 

Ha ha..yeah, we got the tiny mosquitos here..but they swarm you, I was smacking them off by the hundreds. I'll go out and get you guys a better photo right now..or at least I'll try to. And Tom, don't worry, I'm putting the air dam back on soon...I just have to wait until it STOPS FRICKIN RAINING so I can get down under there and work the tubing around the side of it..right now it goes down the middle. It's compression tubing so it should have no problem stretching... After I did this mod though, my car developed a really rough idle and I'm trying to figure out why... The engine sounds like sh*t right now..and I hear a noise that distinctly sounds like metal rubbing metal. It has plenty of power, but it idles like crap. Sounded like it was missing the other day but I don't think so...who knows...time for a tune up huh? Everyone thinks it's my idle air temp sensor but I doubt a little thing like that could cause this kind of problem...I've messed with it before and it's never had any real bad effect, except that when I unplug it, I run a 20 second 0-60.

 

The filter...

 

And the rest... I tried to get an under-car picture for you guys too but the camera died..POS.....

 

Update: WAHOO!!! I got the air dam back on today..BARELY managed to move the ducting around to the passenger side of it. Then I used strings of twist-ties to secure it to a plastic piece over the gaps where the ricers run CAI to.... The best part is too, the part of the duct I was afraid would scrape, I put a 2nd layer of ducting OVER it, and stuffed plastic bags into the 2nd layer, and duct taped it all together. It's not pretty...but it works!

 

What kinda camera are you using.
Thoes pics look like sh*t.

Your gamma correction, and hues are way offf..
I' mean, WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY off.

 

Ha..thats the first time I've ever gotten criticism for the CAMERA and not what I did! It's an Agfa CL-20...codename: Piece of **** $100 Camera. Yeah, the pictures are ****, color correction is ****, it periodically turns off on its own will. So there ya go..don't buy it! EVER

 

right now i can tell you your going to get &$@@!@! with that filter
RAIN BROTHER
it will soak up in the filter and suck into the intake call me a lier and wait...... Also when it does get wet it will retain dirt and dust and block the way of air flow not dissing the work. Also it might not be getting enough air to the engine by the looks of the design not dissing again since there is such tight turns in the duct work. Also what is the deal with the airdam why did you have to take that off haha. :-) From my opinion id go back with factory and cut the air bafels out and run the ran air to the fog light hose in the nose. you can buy that euro grill stuff to keep large crap out of the air line inlit. But its just me.
I have yet to do anything but cut the bafles

 

Hey, show me a little diagram or gimme a post to search for with one on how to do the fog light ram air and of course I'll look into it. I had to take the air dam off to minimize the sharp bends in the ducting! But the car was wanting to run too hot, so I put it back on and bent the duct out of the way. It's no permanent system, but as of right now, it STILL flows better than stock. No joke. Now, I've driven it in the rain before without a problem and I doubt it's going to pull water all the way through the filter, around like 3 or 4 bends, and straight vertical through a 90 degree pipe and in through the stock black ribbed thing... But I do agree that the filter can take in water..I'm still working on ideas of how to get that problem cancelled out. And I plan on buying something like the euro grill sheet... And I want to pull the fat conical out of there because it looks good, but it's not well made...I don't know of it's cotton gauze or not.. (Hope so). But I want to get a long and slender k&n and run it right up to the foglight hole, because right now it's a few inches away because there's a metal shelf area that the filter won't go past. But anyways, gimme a better description on what to do here and I'll check it out, cause right now it's already positioned in the foglight area, just the routing of the ducting is ****ty.

 

here is a design this is over in 5 minutes from this post though i can't remember where i saw this **** i thought it was from the banners above the board it was 149.99 made out of metal just bolt it it but i can't find it you can make it yourself much cheaper though the idea is to leave the filter where its at or contain some type of filer under the hood where dust and such wont get to it. If you leave filters where you have them yous asking for trouble

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...em=1851374089e

 

found it i knew it was off the banners its at hawks why they list it ynder drive line who the hell knows

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...il?v=1&pid=779

 

Hey now..I like that 2nd one. The first one, I don't have that kind of intake, I had the arm to the can. But yeah, the 2nd one looks sweet...I'll have to get in touch with them for more info and see exactly how you hook that up and where the tubing, etc. goes. That's for a TPI 3rd gen though..are the intakes on us MPI guys compatible?

 

that one only comes with the ducting
you have to take a venture to wrecking yard or ebay to get the baffle assembly and air box but yes
gm screwed up when they did the air tube to the side deal more air comes into the engine with the old setup 2 flow into one forces more air in plus its in front not to the side.

 

Yeah, I hear ya...that old box seems on the thin side though. But you gotta look at how little hood clearance they had to work with over the radiator so I can see why. I'll check all this intake stuff out...for now though, my money's going towards exhaust... Bout time!!

 

congrats on the mod!
did you put the MAF sensor back in the duct work?

 

I don't have an MAF.. But I hooked back up the little black tube..what is it, the exhaust recirculation thing? I did NOT put the IAT back though, need to splice it to get it to the right spot...

 

im not sure if you know what im talkin about cuz i dont know what you just said (or i dont understand) so ill throw something on the page....i need sleep BAD

MAF ..Mass Air Flow sensor ..ill explain in short (mmm..beddd) the sensor tells the computer how much air is going into the engine so it knows how much fuel to put in to make the correct air fuel ratio so if the sensor is unplugged or not there it dont know how much fuel to put in so it either dumps it in or it dont put in enough

 

Yes, I'm aware of the MAF sensor's function. I don't have it. They switched over to the MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure I think), which is an indirect system of measuring airflow. So again, I don't have that.

[I think like 89 or 90 and past they did away with the MAF...]

 

correct damn you guys are good the mat is located near the firewall on the pass side why i don't know at least thats what the chiltons man says i have a 87 so it don't matter to me haha.

 

Yeah, it's somewhere back there...I think it measures its readings from the manifold...but that's kinda obvious from its name huh? It's kinda nice having that instead of the MAF cause I've seen the stocker MAF things and they look like they restrict the hell out of airflow...plus they're just one more thing to mess with. All I have is the exhaust recirculation sucker and the IAT...oh so simple.

Speaking of..anyone reading this run the car with the IAT unplugged? Try it sometime..it's hilarious. The car runs fine until you step the gas...then, a semi could beat it in a 0-60.