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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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4th gen shifter in 3rd gen?

To all you thirdgen 5 speeds (the few there are).....has anybody ever put a 4th gen shifter into a 3rd gen? I know it's possible....but has anyone done it? My friend has one he isn't using and i'm gonna put it in mine. It's gotta be shorter than the stock 3rd gen shifter.

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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You saying it has a shorter shift pattern???

I got a T5.

Matt
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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yeah, I think they are about 1" shorter or so. But I kinda doubt they'll bolt up the same, try it and see. good luck
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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They do bolt up the same, infact I think they are the exact same shifter.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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i know they bolt up the same. When i drove my friend's 94 5 speed the shifts were much shorter than in my car (89 5 speed). So, this weekend i'll see and i'll let u guys know.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by F-Bodeee
i know they bolt up the same. When i drove my friend's 94 5 speed the shifts were much shorter than in my car (89 5 speed). So, this weekend i'll see and i'll let u guys know.
Let us know. Check the size and shape to. Maybe I can just knock a inch off mine and expoxy the ball back on. Don't think I wont do it.

Matt
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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will do
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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Why not just snag one from a salvage yard? A factory short throw shifter.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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wut u mean factory short throw shifter?
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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well, i did it this weekend and in fact, it is shorter......not in height....but the shifts are a little shorter. I guess it's now a factory short throw shifter. For free, it's not a bad deal....however i still want a pro 5.0 shifter
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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yes

i want one of those to, my bud has a 95 formula with one he cant speak highly enough of it, so precise he says, arg i wants one!
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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who has the best deal on a pro 5.0 shifter???
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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only place i've seen them is www.pro50.com
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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look harder



http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...l?v=1&pid=8984

http://www.thirdgenresource.com/inc/...l?v=1&pid=1219

http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/inc/pdetail?v=1&pid=224

http://www.pro50shifters.itctv.com/d...&A=E&PKV=P3050|0

theres three more + the company site
...look on ebay too just incase someone sells them there, used or other wise

http://www.fasttoys.net/8292fbodyframes.html
scroll down to it, the cheapest ive seen 181$

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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I got a good shifter that came with my trans but it was cut of right at the bottom lock nut. I was in the shed last night playing with it griped in the vise thinking I could experiment and make different handles.

From the pico f the 5.0 shifter it look as hey are much straighter, shorter.

stock one has a lazy bend toward the driver about 3 inches up. and these seam to lean to wards the driver a tad but are straight and short.





Course I could use it to make a 50's retro shifter that needs a hole cut in the roof just to shift it.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Gumby
Let us know. Check the size and shape to. Maybe I can just knock a inch off mine and expoxy the ball back on. Don't think I wont do it.

Matt
Tell me he didn't say that....
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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I figure the boot with cover most to half of the chrome piece. This was a shifter I got with my trans, it had been cut clean off where the stock two piece one went together.

Still has / uses the stock bend in the bar towards the drive and I added on about a piece of 4 inch pipe. Cutoff a piece of chrome pipe to cover the weld and finish it off clean. The handle is a side grip for a drill I never used. Cut the bolt off the top flat and ever.


I had it in the vise jerking it around through the gears. Feels solid.

Of course it could end up working like crap, but I had some free time and threw something together.


But it feels real comfy and solid.




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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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OK so it ended up worse than it looks. I was using it back wards and that really matters. The bend goes towards the passenger seat cause the T5 is twisted to the left. So that screwed everything up right there and it was about 2 inches to short if I kept using the center console.

Ill hack if off and try again, this time with it mounted in the vise the right way around.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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I don't wanna muck up this thread with a bunck of pics but the new

G Money Special is over here

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...82#post1581982
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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Ok how abou the short throw mustang T5 base

item=2446161014 $40

And the T56 short throw top piece

item=2445816022 $30

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Drops the price to around $80-$90 for a new shifter.
the T5 base is the same it just has the never attachment points that could let you use any top piece.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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Pro 5.0 handle for $20

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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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Yeah, but you're still dealing with that rubbery 'feel'. Play with a stock shifter, then a good aftermarket shifter, and it's night and day.

For the extra $$, you also get positive stops (easily built, tho) but what about the 2-3 spring loaded shift assist?
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Head over to the trans section for the pics, but man did my retro shifter work out sweet as heck. Its actually a short throw shifter also. 1-2 is about half the distance as it was before.
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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OK, so I cut the money sign off and finished my pro 5.0 clone. it helped though using the funky shifter for a while. I got the shape and size right this time around.

3rd times a charm.

Course it still the stock base,
no shift stops but cheap cheap cheap.
Attached Thumbnails 4th gen shifter in 3rd gen?-shifter6.jpg  
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Nice watch
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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If budget will allow, I agree with Doward, go after market. My B&M is one of the best mods I've done. See sig.

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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A B&M short throw has been on my list for a while. But they're so expensive. Maybe for my birthday...

edit: FYI the B&M short throw is listed on Summit for '83-2000 Camaro/Firebird T5. The Hurst Billet Plus shifter is the one I had my eye on.

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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Nice watch
Thats my Bart Simpson "Cool your jets man" watch.

I need a reminder sometimes.
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