I noticed that when my motor get to operating temp or a little warmer the car shakes alot when taking off. I have a t-5. The clutch seems more sensitive, when the motor is cold, no studdering, but when warm it studders alot, (not the engine) but when your letting off the clutch, is this normal? Thanks guys

 

Are you shure its not the engine this sounds like some thing that was happening to my car ( a Firebird with 3.1 700R-4 tranny). It would warm up and only then start to studder and shake. I put a tune up on it and it cleard up. Sorry I cannot help much more don't know that much about manuals.


O also when u say shakes and studders is it jerking u around in the car like the clutch is engaging and disengaging or just shaking like stuff is radling around and the studdering is it that you get on it and it has no power and the engine is missing

 

I would say tune up. Its not the trans. I was running a very high hold clutch and it was grabby, not studdery.

 

I tuned the motor pretty well. When i mean studders, jerks the car back and fourth. Seems like the clutch is much sensitive for some reason. Thanks

 

If it IS the engine....studdering when warm but not cold sounds like you might be running too rich to me... Check ignition stuff...plugs, wires, cap/rotor, and do a coil test... Bad O2 sensor will also create a rich condition when the car switches to closed loop. Besides that...just do the basic tuneup stuff.

 

I almost sure its not the motoe. Just did a huge tune up on it, this car just keeps fighting me. It does not studder if i keep it on high rpm, its not the motor studing, its the whoel car jerking back and fourth. Thanks

 

hmm sounds like some thing I have heard happening the clutch is sliping on the flywheel this is some thing that happened to a friend of my dads car I'll see if I cannot talk to him and see whats happening. From what I remember it is when u put a new clutch in and don't ajust some thing right as I said I'll ask him and get back to u.

 

Thanks man, although I think this is the orginal clutch Coudl it be old? Thanks, Let me knwo what you find out.

 

You know, I can't help but wonder if it's flat spots in the clutch? That'll give you some nasty shudders as you release it, especially if you go for a quick release. It'll have a bouncy feel to it.

 

ahh cannot get ahold of him right now I'll try again tomaro in the moring and see if I can catch him and let u know

 

Yeah, the car shake sback anf fourth fast and stops once clutch is out or in, but if i popped the clutch and spin tires it does not. How do you get flate spots? And would it only do it when hott? Thanks man

 

Flat spots is just from age....and particularly racing. Rapidly slamming the clutch, clutch dumps, etc.... I imagine though that the shuddering problems would be WORSE when cold though it it were a clutch problem...since when clutches heat up, they slip more, providing SMOOTHER operation.

 

Yeah its fine when cold and seems much more worse at high temps. Very odd. If i keep the rpm up like to 2000 and then let off slowly it not as bad if that helps. Thanks guys

 

I talked to my dad. What has happen if it is what I think is that the clutch is glazed on the surface and is slipping on the fly when warm. He said that the easiest way to fix it is to put in a hole new clutch.

 

* for got to put this in he said what causes this is high temps on the clutch. Things like reving it and dumping the clutch racing any thing that puts lots of stress on the Engine and trans

 

Can normal driving help get rid of the glaze or do i need to replace the clutch? Thanks again man, big help

 

I asked him he said it might and it might not get better but it is rare that it does get better. He also said that if it does not get better the flywheel will need resurfaced, u'll need a new clutch, disk, pressure plate, throw out baring, and a new pilot bushing. Also use good quality parts not cheap stuff or it will just do the same thing. U sould do this after a couple of weeks of driving nice with it and seeing if it clears up.

 

I know the throw bearing acts up a little, Like i said it not bad when cold, just when warm, but if i drive normal, its mostly alright, just stopping and going where the problem occurss. Can this hurt my car if i don't change it? Thanks

 

My dad said that if u keep driving it nothing bad will happen but the glaze will get worse and worse till the point of were it is doing all the time and u will not want to drive the car

 

Thanks for the help man and thanks goes out to your dad as well. Next big project. LOL First got to figur out this damn motor. Never easy. I don't need a new pressure plate right? Just clutch disk? Thanks again

 

sorry have not been online this week been bussie he said that u will need a new pressure plate.

 

You definitely need a new clutch. Mine was doing that also. The clutch plate was so worn out that if I let the clutch out too fast, the car would stand still while the clutch slipped (even though it was fully engaged). When I took the clutch plate out there was almost no material left. The studs on the clutch plate that hold the material on were rubbing on the flywheel/pressure plate. Part of the problem (in addition to glazing) is heat dissipation. The clutch plate being worn out can't dissipate heat as fast, and it's also not as strong, so it starts warping and only flattens out when the clutch is fully engaged. It's also a sign of an underpowered car. With the V6 you need more grabbing time before you let the clutch all the way out = more heat.

As someone else said, you need:
clutch plate, pressure plate, throwout bearing (should come in a kit)
resurfaced flywheel
pilot bushing

Good luck, and if you have any questions you can ask me, because I've been there.

 

Thanks guys. If I pop my clutch the tires spin right away. Its a daily driver for me so I am unable to change it right away. So I will have to wait a little while do the job. Never changed a clutch befor so should be fun Thanks for all the help