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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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I'm plotting on another Camaro. This one has less power and costs more. Sounds like a good deal, huh? It's a T-top 91 6 cyl 5 speed with only 87,200 on it----supposedly. It has a few options and he added a set of AR rims, flowmasters and a pioneer Cd system with amp, sub...The guy is asking 2 Gs, but there are some exterior imperfections that I can work with hopefully to get it around 1,700 or so. I booked it at about 1,850 in decent condition.

If I get it, I would like to use it as a daily driver for a year or so, then drop in a 4.3 that I already have. Here are my questions:

1. Does the odometer on the 91s have 6 digits? I'm wondering if this thing really has 187,000+ on it, not 87,000+. I think I'll be able to tell by the condition of the car though.

2. I've been told in order to complete this engine swap, I would have to get a V8 manual trans to match up with the 90 degree 4.3. But I'm confused because I see people with 2.8s, 3.1s, 5.0s & 5.7s all with T-5 transmissions. Is the only difference the bell housing design?

Please help me figure out what I might be getting myself into.

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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1. The 88 cluster I swapped in my ride has six digit odometre, so should the 90's cars.

2. I think the input shaft spline count is different for teh v8 cars, but a better answer should be forthcoming.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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The 91's have 6 digits, yes.

The t5 is used in many rides, including mustangs, s10's and more. Alot of things are different too, about only thing the same is name, and manufacture.

You will need the v8 t5 because of spline count, power rating, and I even belive the mounting to the bellhousing is different also (then our smaller v6's).

Dont forget, you will have to wire in the ecm system also. You MAY beable to use the 305TBI ecm system to run a 4.3TBI, shorten/extend some wires, and make a custom chip for it.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Could always ditch the computer, get a 4.3 4 barrel intak (Astro Van) and put a carb on it.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I have everything for the 4.3. It's complete & running in my 89 Blazer. I figured I would keep the ECM for easy cold starts, stock reliability, easy repair and the possible addition of a Syclone / Typhoon turbo setup down the road. I know their ECMs are different, but I figure I could get mine re-calibrated. I know I won't find one of them at the yard and GM would whack the hell out of me for a new one, I'm sure.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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You can use a WC T-5 with the v-8 motor, a buddy of mine did that. The WC is different then the regular T-5. Hope that helps
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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be sure to get a wc t-5
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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I assume WC stands for World Class? I've seen that on some peoples trans description. What is the difference between the two? Why is the World Class better?
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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From: surrey b.c. canada
Car: 89 Iroc
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Transmission: wc t-5
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the world class is a much stronger tranny, and overall performs better
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Where can you get them and how much more do they cost? I was planning on getting a trans from the junkyard to save on cash.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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From: surrey b.c. canada
Car: 89 Iroc
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they are found in all 88 and up camaros, be sure to get a v8 one
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the info, man. I'll keep that in mind when I search around--------------if I get this thing. Was that the only trans offered for those years, or was it an option? Are there any external differences that would show it's a WC for sure? I would guess they are in Birds as well, right?

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Car: 89 Iroc
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yep, just be sure to get a v8 one a v6 one will not bolt up, all 88-92 camaros and firebirds got them
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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A v-6 one will not bolt up true, however it will bolt up if you change the bell housing on it, then you should be set. Yeah the WC T-5 is much better and built for more power
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by camaro350man
A v-6 one will not bolt up true, however it will bolt up if you change the bell housing on it, then you should be set. Yeah the WC T-5 is much better and built for more power
easier to just find a v8 t-5
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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I think the splines will also match up. Just need to swap bell housings. If you can find a v-8 one, go for it, but if not, the v-6 WC will ve fine
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