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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Serpentine belt routing

I need a pic of the routing for a non AC v6 car. Please somebody
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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give me a minute and i'll go take a pic
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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Ya know; I had a picture that someone drew for me... can't find it on my computer. I'd like to see that picture too! (Someday I may swap to serpentine drive so I can use an underdrive pulley set)
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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i can tell you what it is, since i just redid my computer. from the crank, the belt goes around the p/s pulley, straight across to the tensioner, around the outside of the alternator, to the waterpump and down to the crank. this may not be too clear, but i havent put the pics back on my computer yet, sorry if this isnt too clear.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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ah my cam won't work, but hes right, it goes alternator smog crank back around water pump over power steering , then tensioner
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Are these close?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Belt routing for a 2.8 serp.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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Here is the factory label showing belt routing with AND without smog pump. 1987's did not have smog pumps.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Thanks for the label pic! That doesn't make sense then for a non-ac car; if it goes right from the p/s to the tensioner, doesn't the belt rub against the water pump belt that goes the other way?

Or did non-ac, serp belted cars have their p/s pump mounted higher?

'Cause going by Dean's pic of his engine, if there was no a/c, I don't see how the belt can go straight from p/s to tensioner.

You can actually see my confusion in my ultra-bad drawings... looks like the belt will rub against itself above the water pump.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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You are correct Tom, If it is a NON A/C car it still has to run a dummy pulley in place of the A/C compressor. There is no way to run the belt from the tensioner directly to the powersteering pump pulley without it rubbing.

I have a GM A/C delete pulley on my Chev truck that will work on the 2.8 A/C compressor mount. That GM A/C delete pulley was a factory option for the IROC 350 cars. I someone wants, I will take a pic of it and supply the part #.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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Thanks for the pics. Got it now.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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on my 88, there is no A/C, but there isnt a dummy pulley. it comes close to the waterpump pulley, but does not rub on it. there is an inch or two of clearance
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by drdave88
on my 88, there is no A/C, but there isnt a dummy pulley. it comes close to the waterpump pulley, but does not rub on it. there is an inch or two of clearance
same here, tight fit but no rub
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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tomp, I just noticed that bottom drawing, w/o smog is wrong.

It goes from the alt, down to crank, then up to wp, then over to ps.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Ah, gotchya; I guess with my drawing, the ribs are facing the wrong way AND I've reverse-rotated the water pump!

I'll have to correct that drawing so nobody uses it by accident... maybe I'll even make it pretty.
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