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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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The best junk Ive ever had. Please help.

I was driving down the street and saw two front seats sitting out as throw aways for garbage. These seats are in extremly extremly good condition and are great looking. they are very well cussioned and are the same leghth as my 3rd gens. They match my interior. Here is the thing. I took the seats out of my car and found that the brackets slides underneath my original seats wont fit the ones I found. I need bigger screws and the 3rd gen tracks fit a tad bit wide. I dont know what type of car the seats came out of but i would reallt like to put them in my car. Is there a way I can get these seats in withe the slides at the bottom of my original seats or how can i find out where these seats came from? Are there custom tracks i can buy that will fit these seats?

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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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i doubt anyone could tell you without knowing where the seats came from

just start measuring, take the tracks off of your camaro seats, and center them with the appropriate width between the tracks onto the other seats, then see if you get any rubbing issues... if not, good to go.

i thought about it with some really really nice toyota truck seats i saw for dirt cheap, but i just couldn't stand the thought of the jap crap going in my camaro

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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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body and interior forum has had stuff about modding different seats in the past, check w/ them.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Is there a place were the make custom tracks for seats?
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Car: 1986 Firebird
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Here's what I'd do, and it'd be my style- cheap!!

So you removed the seat rails from the "new" seats, removed the rails from your original seats, and you can't put the f-body rails onto the "new" seats?

Like DizturbedOne said, center the f-body tracks on these new seats. Get a pizza box, cut the top up, and make little flat brackets that would reach from the holes in the seat to the holes in the rail. Of course, the cardboard is now your template, so...

Catch a ride to Home Depot. In their hardware aisle by all the nails and screws and bolts will be a small steel display; pick up a 2 inch x 6 foot long x 1/8th inch thick piece of strip stock for $10. Bring it home, trace the cardboard templates onto the steel. Get out your hacksaw and drill, and turn the cardboard into steel. Then use your new custom adapters to make the rails fit!

And take pictures too!
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by TomP
Here's what I'd do, and it'd be my style- cheap!!
Uh, not to say that I'm cheap... hahaha...
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Obviously these seats are NOT GM seats.
WHY?
Nearly ANY GM ride the seats interchange.
How ya know if they are GM seats?
Your current seat track would fit
What ya do
DO NOT DO WHAT TOM SUGGEST AND WHY?
One good hit during an accident and you'd find out, if ya live.
Seats are made of great strength to survive an accident.
Sell those seats
Custom tracks?
SURE
Go to newsstand and seek any Custom Car magazine & see the ads, you'll find a safer alternative seat track.
AND the cost of said seat tracks is not exactly cheap.
Sell the seats.
How well do GM seats interchange?
I can install my 1967 Camaro seats onto the 1985 Firebird seat tracks & install those 67 seats.
I can install my 1974 Corvette seats onto the Firebird seat tracks and install those vette seats in the Firebird.
GM seats interchange greatly.
One mearly needs the seat tracks for the car you are installing them into. Any other GM seat will fit those tracks.
Sell the seats.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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I was thinking about drilling holes in the seats i found that would bolt up correctly like my originals. Could this work? There is room for more drilling.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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How can this be said....
Ya get the new seat track to mate with the current holes & the floor holes of your car.
That's keeps seat frame accident strength.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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thanks
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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In your area, there may be some answers
Go down 405 by LAX heading south. At the curve where is the signs for POWERS car dealers is 4 x 4 place. One can see it as ya drive on freeway. Stop in there for costs of seat tracks.
But really to preserve your safety, seat frames can't & shouldn't be messed with TOO MUCH!
BUT if ya go "custom seat tracks" ya also spending money.
Weigh the options to just selling what ya scored to score good seats for yourself.
If ya "modify the seat frame to fit", one good accident may be all it takes to wipe out what ya gained, a decent looking seat for free.
IS it worth the chance?
Really seats are what helps ya most in an accident.
And keeping seat stabalized secured in car, is what keeps ya in the "safety car design" chamber. Why ya think seat belts so effective?
PERHAPS this is WHY ya found the seats, someone else thought same project & realized the "options" & passed.
Honda/Toyota/VW Rabbit seats often pop up this way on street corners.
IF ya really want them, turn them into office furniture seats. Attach to a good seat botton, using a large piece of strong thick sheet metal & then ya got them right!
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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I never thought about safety. Thanks alot. I will probably sell them.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Sorry to be a kill joy, but seriously, it really could not be worth the reduced safety factor for the free seats.
Interchangability...
I got Fiero Seats, stuck them into my 85 Blazer.
Blazer Seat tracks fit perfect on the Fiero seats.

Thin vinyl fabric material equals Japanese seats.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Is there a list on the site where someone posted the parts off of different cars fiting right in to the third gens?
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Ready
S-Series vehicles, suspension, front & brakes, front.
Body parts
F Body
Interior
F Body & G Body (GM Seats only)
Steering columns
F Body
Engines
GM Products
That's about it!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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karl, you just really lost me on that one, could you please simplify that one for a idiot, then i will be able to comprehend what you just said!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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You are NOT an idiot,
I'm sorry I answered it in a cufusion structure.
I assume you are not hip in GM lingo body style speak!
Any GM Engine will FIT, BUT the 3.4 swap/upgrade is by far the easiest. And that's only available in 1993-1995 F Body REAR WHEEL DRIVE ONLY
Our Camaro/Firebird is F BODY in GM Lingo.
G Body 1978-1988 is Grand Prix/Cutlass/Malibu/Buick Regal/Monte Carlo (old style rear wheel drive cars)
A Body (1979-to "current") Lumina/Grand Am, cars like that, "large" FWD cars. AND in this range of cars, up to I believe 1986, the 2.8 FWD engines have the exact same style intakes, cylinder heads & even ignition distributor.
X-Body is Chevy Citation type cars, "Small" FWD cars
S-Series is our great score for the front brake parts
S-10, Blazer, S-15, Jimmy
Rotors/calipers, brake power boosters
Fiero, we can score those valve covers, but nothing else "fits" (Fiero induction system looks pretty, but won't work on our engine bays).
GM Seats interchange all way back to the 60's cars.
Use original vehicle seat tracks, slap those on the scored seats & install into your F Body
Remember even on our F Body, the Firebird hood & Fenders are different than Camaro
AND Camaro air induction dual scoop system will NOT fit a Firebird hood.
Corvette stuff fitting?
Nope just the seats.
Wheels, require adaptors.
Fuel injectors are "sized to engine" by Gm spec but you can score those from nearly any other FWD car.
AND the ECM?
On 1985 MPFI cars you can get the ecm from any MPFI car. Example. My 1985 Firebird is running a 1985 Corvette ECU. I keep the original vehicle PROM & can do this.
Carb'd cars are "same" story. Use the ECM from the FWD 2.8 ECM.
I think it's after 1986 that the ECM requirements are the "same vehicle". One would have to check out the Hollandard wrecking yard books for the "true story" on interchangability of post 1986 ECMs.
How does this do ya?
I hope better!
Sorry also wrists sore from scraping glue off kitchen floor using a 2" wide paint scraper & heat gun. This is day two of this kitchen floor scraping project!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Car: 1987 camaro & 70 mustang
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thank you karl, much more sense now, i knew that our cars were f-bodies, but the rest i didn't know except for the s- series.

soak your hands and wrists in epsom salts, it works great for carporal tunnel syndrome
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Day two done
Today added sliced finger tips!
Ice pack on wrist here I come later on.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Car: 1987 camaro & 70 mustang
Engine: 2.8l & built 351C
Transmission: borg warner T-5
beer works well too, and i believe that after today, you deserve one!!!!1
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Yes that does assist!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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beer the cure all!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOL
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