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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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So no track...

Got rained out... didn't stop me from doing some tuning, though.

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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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23 views, and nobody says anything about 11psi?
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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11psi....pu55y!
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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my first view, and holy (not appropriate word). as long as that 3.1 holds up, thats gonna be a beast man. once i have the rest of my engine set to go ($$ going toward a wedding, you know how it is doward, lol) then ill be looking toward a turbo and be hitting you up for at least some parts for it. thats really impressive though, great job!!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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damn impressive
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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we all know you're running 125135238 octane, the game is up doward.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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was it a head gasket bad or what?
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Fried two sets of rings Like I said, you guys don't even understand what I've got brewing right now More parts arriving tomorrow
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Speaking of brewing....................been to the post office with any packages to send to Georgia? Hint hint!
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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no track for you!?!? we had a nice cool evening tonight and i took advantage of it! ran a 9.72 (1/8). took all my tuning stuff (computer) but the prom burner wouldn't work!! i hadn't used it on this computer before...there's my mistake, i guess! so, i got some datalogs but couldn't change anything.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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i had been wondering what you were up to.

hurry up and get to the track.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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does it involve ae and blm and such mumbo jumbo? or speed density?


i got nothin.

oh i know it, you ditched turbo and went with a stroked, drysleeved 427" ls2 block? bastard.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 03:12 AM
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Dowards building an intake manifold.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by V6#20
Dowards building an intake manifold.
SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!


Well, a couple actually. Let's face it, there is no point in trying to build large amounts of power, at low rpms.

So intake #1 - prototype coming soon (yes, mild steel for the PROTOTYPE) - but no pics until it's finished...

I will say this - powerband of 2400rpm-6500rpm (instead of our idle-4400rpm ), and will be great for blown (turbo or super) applications. Designed for iron headed RWD applications, uses the stock lower manifolds. Will include new fuel rails, new regulator, and your option of injectors - plus a chip for the new intake, and scaled for your injector choice (or you don't even have to get new injectors ) I'm LOVING the design I've made for this. It should have a VERY broad powerband, and best of all - You'll be able to remove the valve covers, without removing the intake

Designed for 62mm monoblade TB.

Intake #2 I'm designing, (not ready for prototype quite yet) is simple - Aluminum heads on a RWD package. So far I'm using the FWD 3100 intake as a design basis. the fact that our lower intake manifolds are actually part of the valve gasket mounting flange, really REALLY bites This is sort of a 'side' project, lol

Why do they make more power then? Camshaft, roller rockers, MUCH better plenum-to-runner area than we have... I really think the intake is a MAJOR portion of it, though!

Why aluminum heads, then? Well, first, let me offer this -



The ports on the heads are NOT that much bigger than ours - ESPECIALLY if you port the iron ones, at least to gasket match ( I'll be doing this VERY shortly for intake #1)

Also, the intake ports -



Our LIM (lower intake manifold) have... dammit, I had it written down... like 6.7 square inches of port opening. The FWD intake was like 6.6 square inches, IIRC... (figures, I take measurements, and LOSE THEM ) - So why go with aluminum heads?

Well, they weigh... uh... like... nothing. LOL. And more importantly QUENCH is MUCH more optimized on the FWD aluminum head/piston combo (YES YOU WILL NEED THE PISTONS). My question is, HOW much more optimized? I'm very curious, and will be checking out more after I go get my 2nd set of iron heads off the block...

Intake #3 is still on paper. Ultimate N/A. This will only be built if I find a 3.4, lol, as I don't think anything else will be REALLY worth it. We're talking dual plenums, dual 58mm TBs, short, straight runners, and like a 3000-8000rpm powerband. I was thinking of an IR setup, ala the Falconer intake, but I think the dual plenums will flow more than enough air for HIGH N/A power output. Headers will be a REQUIREMENT to really use this intake. Again, still in the planning stages.

This is all at least a month or two down the road. I've got a very important project, that I thought would be done over a month ago, that I'm finishing... (hehe... erik - you got PM )
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Doward
- So why go with aluminum heads?

Well, they weigh... uh... like... nothing. LOL.
a little more precisely (still not terribly precise, though) both aluminum heads weigh about a pound or two less than ONE iron head!! i weighed them but don't remember the numbers off the top of my head.
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