lmao 2.8 cars did the 1/4 in 18.0+ and 3.1 cars did it around 17.5.

hah stealing an intake design, ive never seen anoyone even make one other then am91 and his resembles a factory intake.
and ur still missing the point the car made around a 130hp gain at the rear tires on a stock engine @ 5-7 ps1
ur a ****ing joke u dont even know what ur car runs so until u can do better shut the **** up

 

I can beat that in my wagon but that wasn't what bothered me.
We didn't even get to see half of the action.
Camera man or woman didn't even zoom in right to grab the track times.

[don't tell me it can't, my $30 20yr old VHS camcorder can zoom that far well.]

a vid showing what the car can do is great but 90% of that vid was just you playing lucas trying to over produce a movie. instead of gettin to the point. Show us some runs, not 5min of you doing nothing and 1 min of runs........


We all know a stock 60* engine can take 5-7 PSI and run fine all stock parts.
Done been proved before. Same with NOS. Guy here had a 5.0 system on a 2.8 for years with no trouble.

again not the point.

glad it runs well, the over bolwn, over produced waste of bandwith is my problem.

all big props on the car and work Dave but you trying to play lucas makes it SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. I was so let down by that vid, this is the reactoin. TImes it ran wasn't.

This is what a track run vid should look like.......

http://viragotech.com/rickrandy.wmv


Again guy I am not busting your ***** to be mean, car work is great, the over blown video work is a waste of time. Wait till ya run a realy really really good low number to go into 8hr of editing for your run vid.

plz Dave get lots n lots of more vid run to show us but stop playing lucas.

 

gum,by ur missing the point i didnt edit anything,and there was no zoom on the camera.if u have a cvs by u next time ur there look by the photo dept.what we used was a 30$ disposable camcorder,sorta like on of those one time use cameras.
i just thre all the clips together and uploaded it,that and i didnt relize how long the first clip was i never looked at it till it was done.got the dvd poped it in my comp riped the tracks and made them one is all i did.somone wanted to see the system so i left that in there.

 

It's obvious from your response, Gumby, that you don't bother reading what is being written to you. That "entire" video was not meant for this forum, but rather than edit the footage, Dave simply hosted whatever was filmed, which wasn't much (maybe for your server though)...

"Zoom in" LMAO, yeah, maybe if I 'ran' down along the side of the track during the runs, with camera in hand, we'd have a much clearer picture of the elapsed times for you LMMFAO!!!!

As for your opinion on the footage, it was already noted a few posts ago, so there really is no longer a freaking need to beat a dead horse. Your obviously looking to start something by reiterating yourself, just let it go already....

As for what a track run "should" look like, if people wanted to see some REAL track runs, they'd simply need to look no further than this Raceway Park East Coast Challenge, and not this

 

I'll send ya a PM, I'm working on something.........involves court.

 

Picture too big

 

^ Oh lookie, somebody copied the "T-Ram" concept courtesy of SLP, and incorporated it onto the V6. Are we supposed to be impressed with that pic lol...?

I have a "pic" of a chromed out LB9 engine, employing a modified L99 intake. Beautiful pic, definitely show material, but still a high fourteen second V8 lol...

What are your numbers....?

Yeah, yeah, and one day I had the car driving close to 200mph out on the highway. Yeah, yeah, and the drivetrain was specially designed by the people over at Area 51 in Roswell. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket... *insert John Lovitz's voice from SNL* LMMFAO!

 

Why are you guys fighting, the point of Dave running is to see what he's doing now, and what he can do to improve his speeds, what we are all trying to do here is get our cars to run low 13's if possible and Dave is the one that is leading the way to make that happen, he could easily put a bigger engine in there and do it easily but he wants to do it with the stock engine and prove everyone wrong. War one day a few v6 2.8 and 3.1's doing 10's.

 

I also see your quote applied to the guy you have your nose so far up his ***- due to his looking like an exact copycat of mine.The argueing is always with the children on the V6 board of TGO- year after year.
And Rosewell/area51 probably did design my driveshaft since its carbon fiber you dipsh*t.

 

What really matters here is that Dave has a passion for cars, especially third gen V6's, the cars no one outside of this community respects because of the lack of power or whatever, and what Dave is doing is giving a forum to the people who love the same kind of cars that he does so we come on here to get ideas from everyone and maybe show those v8 guys that v6's are here to stay, but if we come on here and tear each other down, we're not hurting anyone but ourselves, I'm pretty sure Dave could go out and buy a different type of car if he wanted to, he could just sell the one he has now and get something faster, but its not about that its about the passion you have to build and make something that is not stock fast into something special. I personally love to drive, and I'm sure you guys do to, so big thumbs up to Dave for actually going to the track and running your car when no one else will, and big ups for representing the third gens in a big way. And war 2.8's and 3.1's for giving hell to those 5.0's.

 

And I am not?Have you seen the rare oneoff things I have done to a V6 car that even V8 guys do not have. This Dave guy is late in the comings- Doward did a turbo setup just like this years ago, so did another guy from Cuba- noibody bought any from either of them and they had better results then this Dave guy has.

 

I got the privilege of driving a extremely low mileage L98 engine late last year. I truly think my modded v6 car could have hung with it once they were rolling. V8 would have taken me off the line if the driver didnt spin. But again, taking into factor was the v8 car was fully loaded down to every option short of t-tops. Mine was bare bones as one could get.

I also think my modded v6 is/was faster then my current car. But I didnt get my new car for speed, I got it for style.

These v6's can be made to surprise, but it takes alot of work, money, and trying this n that. There is little to no aftermarket support for these engines.

 

Not meaning to fuel the fire but, do you really think that "your" design is so unique that no one else could have that idea?

Wait youre right... No one else could ever think of mounting a box onto the runners. That is a pretty complex design. Dave I think you had better give him 75% of your earnings.

 

and show me what thread u showed me that manifold

 

You are a total idiot, and should be banned immediately. Your a frog croaking, with absolutely nothing to back up your pathetic claims (which is all you are, one pathetic claim)....

Awhh, don't have a hissy fit now Mary. I'm sure some of the fifteen year old's here still respect your non factual claims. At least Dave had the decency to post something, and not hide behind his PC, spewing pics that probably aren't even his to begin with...

Umm, the net result...?

Considering Doward's questionable business practices, I wouldn't be too quick to believe what he "quoted" himself to be running....

 

HPE's "innovative", and one of a kind design;

http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...52_66_full.jpg

SLP's seventeen year old design;

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...52_34_full.jpg

 

if you don't mind me asking whats with doward?

 

I'm not trying to take sides or fuel the fire but I've been on these boards for a while now. HPE, Dean, does have the things he claims to have. I have seen pics over the years. His car is built for autox, not drag racing. It will run circles around lots and lots of cars (literally if he wants it to). He does have many one of a kind pieces on his car. He did build a manifold like that although he did not seem to have any desire to make more or sell it/them.

Doward did build a turbo setup on his car, best time I remember hearing from him was a 14.95, I believe...I know he had the setup on the car, I rode in it. It wasn't bone stock, had a very mild cam in it and a fresh rebuild.

These are all of the facts that I know...let's all "play nice"

 

Why can't we all pitch in and help each other somp some Stangs?!

 

rob u free this weekend???? i have a funny feeling the cars going back this weekend at a stock wieght to make some more passes

still gonna be a stock motor only changes are gonna be weight and ill have the stock 3:42's back in the car,and this time im comming out on slicks with more boost.

itll have to be saturday or sunday though taking the car over to MRC on friday and let them re dyno the car with the stock 2.8 @ 12-14 psi

 

3:42 is stock for v6?

 

for most of them i think it was
82-89 auto got 3:42's
82-89 manul trans got 3:23's ??? or maybe it was 3:73's
90-92 all got 3:23's i belive

i posted it up along time ago and im on my slow *** laptop so im not about to search for it,but u can look on tgos front page and they have all the specs listed for each year

 

i had heard that autos got 3.23s and manuals got 3.42s. depends on who you ask, i guess

 

Its called a plenum.
This thread, posts #16-#18. I took the picture back down myself just as I did now on this thread.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/3...ghlight=intake

 

lol re read the thread again mine was already done.though the ones i built after i relized i didnt have to angle the base up in the middle to clear the valve or anything else.
so ur idea of me stealing ur design is shot down there buddie

 

There is pictures of it all over this board from years ago in the initial drawings to the build sequence.
Search buddy, search.
Or maybe you did search already prior to building your own.

 

so ****ing what? or are just pissed that i was able to sell a bunch of them and u never did.
next ur gonna tell me that u also designed the manifold i built for the fwd heads too
roflma

 

You asked, not I
By the way, I have a flurishing aftermarket parts business right now- I sure in hell am not going to disclosure that business name to a punk kid like you to slander it all over the internet.

 

Gumby he was just showing people what a STOCK 2.8 with a power adder would do under non-optimal conditions... so i think you need to chill out. Let's see you make a vid and post it up... and 3-4 hour download? phht took me less than a minute, i dunno what you are downloading from.

Dave: Nice vid, i enjoyed the eye candy and the non-race stuff... because the non-race stuff is what makes it, even if you do good or bad in the race, at least you tried!

for those with negative comments: go to the complaint department... we have a 400 pound prison guy who has been in there for 15 years w/o a female. he is also holding a large sledgehammer ~45 pounds.

kthxbyecomplainers.

 

why can't all of you just calm down for a moment.
honestly guys come on. who cares who came up with that manifold first. the manifold looks fairly similar to the stock one other then the plenum is more of a box then the stock hunk. and maybe a little straighter to the ports but other then that it is nothing radical from the stock design.
as far as daves car yes the time is slow for a v6 with a turbo as far as what he should of gone in my opinion as well but you know either way he is trying. he has taken steps that not a whole lot of people have taken to make the car faster. dean you yourself have done some incredible stuff to your car as well. you both have tried to better the world of the v6 so why sit here and pound your chest saying I'm the best and bring the v6 community down? both of ya the name calling and everything isn't really needed is it?

come on children lets play nice and go smoke some imports that always seems to make you domestic guys feeling better

 

Again, well put.

 

scottie its a 2.8 lol

 

I'm free this weekend Dave. Saturday looks to be the best day to make some passes, as Sunday's are getting a little too costly lately....

 

85-89 all cars got 3.42
90-92 auto got 3.23
90-92 t5 got 3.42

 

Where is Doward when you need a creepy middleaged go-kart / Corvette exterminated!?

 

Thanks Scottie. I had twenty minutes to burn, and that Sunday wasn't one of the better track days. It was pretty empty, and there weren't that many street cars (street cars worth filming, that is). It wasn't only meant for TGO, it was meant for another forum as well, as well as Dave's own collection of memories...

Promise to have better footage this weekend (if it doesn't rain). This time Dave will be running me in the 1/4 mile (not the LS1), and we'll be filming three passes. One filmed by the tree, second filmed mid-track, and third filmed by the light board....

 

its not gonna happen this weekend my gf and daughther are both comming home from the hospital tom.so i cant do it,prolly wont be able to get back to the track for a few weeks,and by then i may very well have the new motor in the car

 

Dave, why do you want to take the 4.10s out and put the 3.42s back in?

 

traction issues when running on street tires, and the biggest one is rear gear ratio can greatly affect turbo spool time.with the 3:42's the car will spool the turbo up faster.


and example is this i can get 5 psi on the line with either gear set.after launching it drops some boost preasure and may take 60-150 ft before i start builind more boost presure with the 4:10's.with the 3:42's i shoudl start builing more boost directly off the line ,or a few ft out, which means more power earlier in the run.


besides i dont have a lockup on my transmission so driving down the highway with 4:10's burns up alot of gas specially with a 4,000 stall converter

 

In my head the gears would make it easier for the engine to rev therefore allowing it to spool. And I dont know hardly anything about converters and all that so if you could explain further. I do understand bout the 4.10s and bad gas mileage

 

turbos dont spool by how fast the motor revs, a turbo is load dependant, a lower gear puts more load on an engine.
heres an example if im going half throttle on a flat or down hill road @ 55 mps i get no boost.
now if im on a flat road doing 55 and i start going up a hill at half throttle i will see 2-3 psi or more depending on how steep the hill is.

a stall converter lets the motor rev higher before it applies the engine power to the transmission pretty much.

say a car with a stock converter
ur at a dead stop and u stop on it rpms might goto 2,000 as the car starts to move.
now with my converter if i do the same thing the motor revs up much more as the car starts to move.
instead of having to wait for the car to begine to move into the higher rpms were it makes more power,a stall converter lets the motor rev higher so ur basically in the engines power range from a stop.

thats apretty basic explination,but theres alot more to it,prolly the easiest way to explain it

 

Thanks for the lil lesson. Im tryin to learn as much as possible about this stuff. All I really know is n/a. And btw nice vid. Kick @$$ system too

 

^ (six up) Going to be rained out anyways....