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i just had someone try to tell me that firebirds and camaros are different cars. what the hell is wrong with people. oh and then i showed him the proof that they were the same. he said the data was wrong??? oh and sorry guys i converted my 2.8 took a crap on me and i had gotten my bonus. i bought a trans am. but if i could have i woulda kept the 2.8 and played with that too.
makes me sad to see a bird go the way of the yard. brings a salty tear to my eye
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Uh...they are differant cars. They have a lot of the same parts, as they are sister cars, but they are 2 differant cars.
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i know that he ment that the drive train and engine are different and the outputs are different. not just the body and styling
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no no no he says the engines are different the tranny is different and the drivetrain is different. i know the exterior is different with a few exceptions and and interior as well the same. but i know the drivetrain in both cars is based off the same platform. the f-body with the same engine and tranny combos available for both with the same outputs for both. this guy is saying the outputs are different.
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Yeah.. i dont know why the majority of the people in this thread say they are different cars? Camaro and Firebird are the same cars.. only difference is body/interior. Same as a GMC Sierra and a Chevy Silverado. Same as Mercury Mountaineer and Ford Explorer. Look at it this way, what is more different, the Differences or the Similarities? Yeah thats what i thought.. People are too harsh.
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the guys that drive camaros want you to know that they are driving camaros and the guys that drive birds want you to know that they drive birds. Otherwise, we would all be driving a cambird or a firearo. If you had a twin that looked similar to you but wasn't you, and everyone said you were the same person... how would you feel?
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the guys that drive camaros want you to know that they are driving camaros and the guys that drive birds want you to know that they drive birds. Otherwise, we would all be driving a cambird or a firearo. If you had a twin that looked similar to you but wasn't you, and everyone said you were the same person... how would you feel?
It would be like looking at perfection in the mirror
My friend spotted a Transmaro the other day and almost died
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the point is that they use the same engine with the same power outputs. for instance this guy was saying that a 5.0 camaro puts out more power then a 5.0 firebird both from the factory with no mods. something tells me thats not right. maybe cause its the same engine. maybe he's thinks that a 5.7 camaro puts out more power then a 5.0 firebird. or a 5.7 firebird puts out more power then a 5.0 camaro. but from the factory with no mods a 5.0 camaro puts out as much power as a 5.0 bird. yes they are astecically different interior and extrior i realize that. but the engine packages are the same in either and only minor suspension differences.
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The bird generally had a more restrictive air intake and were rated about 5hp less the same in a camaro. But as for block, intake, trans, axle.. all the same.
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the point is that they use the same engine with the same power outputs. for instance this guy was saying that a 5.0 camaro puts out more power then a 5.0 firebird both from the factory with no mods. something tells me thats not right. maybe cause its the same engine. maybe he's thinks that a 5.7 camaro puts out more power then a 5.0 firebird. or a 5.7 firebird puts out more power then a 5.0 camaro. but from the factory with no mods a 5.0 camaro puts out as much power as a 5.0 bird. yes they are astecically different interior and extrior i realize that. but the engine packages are the same in either and only minor suspension differences.
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I agree with ksith. If they are different, why are they on the same site? Sure they use different parts...but theyre essentially the same damn thing. If you go through all the f body generations they were pretty much the same also. Isnt a plymouth voyager and dodge caravan the same junk, even though they have different names? Same goes for yukon, escalade, and tahoe...sierra and silverado...only thing is subtle differences that make the vehicle look/appear different to an untrained eye. GM is good at playing that game...nothing against them but they know how to dress up the same thing in different clothes
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gm pretty much made one car one truck one van then just tweaked em a bit in different names, some say lazy i say genius
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