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Have you had a chance to get my TB and manifold yet?

I thought you were going to use those headers for twins?

 

any ?'s on the setup and just ask, the only pics and things i wont show u are they heads that stuff is staying with me this time

on other thing id liek to add is the t04ed is not staying on this setup i am going to a t70 or gt42 and 50mm wastegate.
car will also have an nitrous system on it but i cant install it till i get longer metric bolts to bolt the plates on
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i havent been to the shop yet prolly not till wensday,
those arent the same headers i sold the others. ps is the same design, ds is a whole new design all together

 

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You have all of this supposed work into your heads, yet you install stock valve springs and rockers?

 

not stock springs but the rockers are i di reuse the stock shields retainers and locks though
single springs 112#'s seat pressure 305 open i rused the stock rockers just cause there was no need to goto a 1.6 rocker with this cam,had there been i would have bought roller tips, i may still go buy some 1.5 stamped roller tips though

 

Why you keeping secrets about your heads? I know some people like to keep their cam specs to themselves, but cylinder head info

 

cause the heads were cnc'ed with modified ports and chambers

 

Yeah, but do they look much better than this?...






(click to enlarge)

 

more liek a gen 1 sbc port no more vanes and the upper guides were cut down alot and knifeedged

 

Well then, can you share flow numbers?

 

no flow bench gota go by what they do on the car

 

hmmm. How did you get the ports to flow equally?

We will be offering CNC ported heads (hopefully) this time next year.

 

all the ports are identical they should flow the same

 

Sounds like a poor man's head job. All this attention to detail concerning the turbo, and you simply just trust that the heads will flow the same because they were machined the same, without verifying it?

 

What your point? Just because you put up pics dosent mean that anyone can/will follow your example, or even know how to do it. Most people dont even P&P their heads...what are you worried about?
Dont be talking about these super upgraded heads unless you are willing to back them up and prove it. (just a lot of people making wild claims, recently, on the interweb)

 

Looks like Dave got some sand in his vagina.

 

Grimm, don't be so harsh bro....

Although I can't verify any of his flow numbers myself, I guess what really matters here is how well it performs at the track. A 10.90 index is saying a lot, and would be impressive, so let's wait and see what happens....

-Rob

 

not all of us have the time/money or access to a flow bench

street were praying for a 10.90's run liek u wouldnt belive the car was built around ss/t rules so were hoping to make it happen

 

I really hope so too bro, as you picked one hell of a weekend to go. This weekend is going to be hosting some of the fastest freaking Imports around, so someone needs to represent....

 

dont know how good we will do with the car,this is the first time first time shot is a planned 7psi,then steping up in 5psi increments each pass, we get 3 time runs before first round so it should be interesting to see what happenes.

though i do not belive this turbo will get past around 12-14psi on this motor im gonna have to keep an eye on air temps,i seriously need either of the 70mm turbos i mentioned in the other thread but both are on back order for another week

 

I didnt mean for it to come out like that. I was kinda irritated at some things earlier today, and that want written right. Sorry Dave. I just would really like to see them...but they are his heads and I guess the numbers are all that matters. Any chance of letting out the size of the valves?

 

1.80/1.55 u can swap them into stock heads but require recuting of the seat and some bowl work not much room to go larger

 

Yea, I remember that there wasnt to much room for larger valves. Thanks, I was just curious how much room you made.

 

Aww, where'd the pics go?

 

Yeah Dave, what happened?

We want to see what these iron heads can do.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuaInKgvqsA

the last clip was of about 25 mins ago with the car in full street trim threw a muffler nice and quiet hehe stealth mode

dont know what happened with the sound though it was really low,though i am just figuring out how to use it,hell i finally found the dam zoom button tonight lol

 

well its 6am time to leave for the track stay tuned for videos either late tongiht or tom morning

 

You get your tuning all squared away?
Sounds and looks real good...I love the way the driver header comes up and over.

 

ive got a fe wmore clips but no runs, i never got the chance to make a single pass before i broke the car,i knew my fan was slightly rubbing the radiator but figured it would be ok, well i was wrong i ended up getting a leak and couldnt run, ill have a new radiator tom if i get it early enough i will be back at the track in the morning to make some passes if not i will deff me making some passes on tuesday or wensday

 

You know, I have to say that I am a little disappointed. I'm not trying to start a flame here, but it seems to me that everytime it comes time to back up your word with timeslips, something happens to the car and you can't run.

You would think that with all the time that you have invested into the heads and the headers and all of the other things that go into getting this turbo setup running, that you would take the same care and attention to making sure that the electric fan doesn't rub the radiator, or that you actually have the proper tune before going out to run with serious cars. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea, it's just that everytime that I've seen a recent video from you, you are running the engine without the ducting even hooked up to the intake. Does not bode well for believeing that this thing will pull out a 10.9.

Sorry man, but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

All this talk, all this knowledge and all this time into the big things, and yet you miss the small, yet important, details.

 

th eonly thing wrong with the tune was the fact that i couldnt get the antilag to prperly work i had it set to pull 10* of timing and add 18% more fuel,so ive got to mess witht hat a lil bit.

u know some things u just miss i was working on the car from 6am friday morning till i left at 6am sat morningi had lots of odds and ends to take care of,lil leak here,adjust this over here etc,i figured the fan would be fine i mean it just ever so slightly touched.what i didnt relize was when i changed the angle of the radator top mounts that one of the lower rubber mounts had poped out of place allowing the radator to move around.simple mistake and i shoulda known better,but i was just dead set on getting to the track ontime. the first 2 vids posted were rigth after i did the motor break in i did not break the motor in witht pipes connected,if u notice the last vid from i put those 2 after breakin vids and the newest clip i had in since it showed everything fully bolted on.

and like i said if i get the new rad in tom morning in time to make tech inspection i will be making my runs tom the car is 100% ready to go with the tune set to run upto 11 psi,if nto u just have to wait until tuesday or wensday night plain and simple
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yeah man i said i knew better i chanced it and got burnt chalk one up to shoulda coulda but didnt live and learn

 

i mean **** u guys think i loaded up the slicks and all my **** to make the drive down to e-town to get there put the car into race trim pay 70$'s entry fee just to not make a pass ????????????????????????? not to mention the 100$'s in race gas,yeah i really spent 170$'s and spent the previous 24 hours with no sleep just to go and purposley not make a pass

 

It's nothing personal, but there has been a lot of talk and not much proof. I mean c'mon, your hatch doesn't even stay closed...fantastic for aerodynamics.

Don't worry, I will have no problem apologizing for the doubt when I see a timeslip.

 

lol i had just pulled it down do to the test, i still had more **** i had to take out of the car before i woulda went up for my first qualifying run.video does show i need more suspension work though,if u watch carefully u will see the rear suspension unload and load back up

 

QFT!

I've NEVER seen a vid where a full pass was made. Too much talk, not enough action....

As the saying goes:

The Bullshit stops, when the christmas tree drops!

 

^ Although I do agree with Six_Shooter in that the bullshit stops when the freaking tree drops, today is another day. I'm not finding excuses for Dave, but his excitement has always made him forget the little details, and that really is the truth. I remember last year when he finally got a chance to bring the car to the track, and he forgot the vacuum line to the fuel pressure regulator. Minor thing for some, for others not so minor, but the point is that the guy had clearly devoted the Winter season to this car, and although he took his time to plumb the new turbo system, he (like all of us) rushes on the rest, and forgot a few of the details to provide you guys some footage. Today's another day, and hopefully it won't rain....

All I will add to this is this; Dave, be sure and go over everything before you leave the garage. The villagers are getting restless, and if something new happens, like, you got there at 7:00am, but you accidentally left the Camaro at the shop lol, I think the member's here will have just about had it....


-Rob

 

It's not going to pull out a 10.9, not with that turbo, anyways. Not to mention, he wouldn't have made it passed tech indexing a 10.9 with lack of a rollbar (first thing they would have looked for)....

 

That is a good point...

All I'm saying is that if you know your radiator fan is hitting your radiator, you would think that someone that is as far into getting this thing to run fast would stop and think "hey, this might turn out bad."

I guess this can be compared to the reason that they have to put "Stop engine before installing belt" on drive belts now...someone didn't think something all the way through.

 

rob is right 11.49 i need a roll bar, i have it just havent put it in yet,and the turbo on the car will deff not support goin in the 10,s it just to small,my new turbo should be shipping out in the next few days, it was back ordered,even still its not going right on the car till im sure everything else is dialed in,bigger turbo makes it easier to run the risk of blowing up the motor due to a tune being off a lil bit.

heh rob hows it sound compared to the old setup ur prolly the only one that knows the diff and the launch as well

 

^ It sounds a great deal better than last year Dave, the tuning sounds much more precise, not to mention the engine sounding killer at idle w/that camshaft. Last year you had to let off of it very early because of the pinging, but now your able to follow through. I'm really curious to see what it traps now....

 

lol it actually helps when u can street drive the car for a week anda half before actually getting it to the track,**** that time we went to the track we installed the ms the day before and tuned it by taking laps around the fuggen parking lot,with a dam narrow band no less.

oh yeah and spool + street driving = not very fun

 

Your running a freaking spool? I bet your uncle talked you into that, didn't he lol. I remember. Not only did you install the MS the very same day, but you had to solder some wiring into it because a jumper was missing....

 

nope spool was my idea i got tierd of breaking posi units last year i went out to street wars and the posi wouldnt lockup i almost cliped the left wall, i said **** it and installed a spool the next week, works great just dont try to turn

 

^ Exactly why I'm not going to run a full slick, as I don't need the added headache of a possible broken rear. Plus the car won't see any track time until the Dana 60 makes it's way in there first. Surprised those rears grenaded before the U-Joint did, but either way, the spool is definitely added insurance....

 

The biggest drawback last year was that Dave had to keep easing off of the throttle because of the constant pinging, especially w/prepped track conditions (looking back, especially with what I know now, it was far from tuned correctly). Believe me when I tell you, the launch above is night and day from where the car was at last year (had to ease off seconds after launch, but now he can finally follow through). I'm very curious to see what he now traps....