The wife said I can't keep it.






^^^and here I thought they could play nice together.

Actually, I'm skimming some parts of it, and sending it to it's grave. It has a clear title, but I only need the AL driveshaft and Disk rear from it, also keeping the manual steering (just in case) , and probably going to keep some of the small items that may come in handy, but if you guys need anything it's in the classified section...

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exte...-part-out.html

So, the Firebird will now have traction, and 4 wheel disk brakes

Should go well with the 15"x11" Crager's and drag radials (maybe slicks).

Now I need to see what gears are in it ran 11's with the 383.


More pics here...

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ans%20AM%2085/

Lol. It looks so sad.

i would suggest keeping the drum brakes if possible

Why?

The black one looks happy

cause the drums hold better on the starting line for drag racing,
they are self energizing
speciually useful when trying to spool a turbo when u cant get a transbrake with a 700r4

disk brakes will not hold anywere near as much as drums do

I'll buy the sway bars if you'll part with them.


the white car looks like it knows it's doomed and the black one looks smug.

Are you for real?

You should tell all the Super Street, EZ Street, Pro Stock, FC, TF, and any other class that runs single digits, they all run disc. See what they say....

I bet there will be some laughter involved.

Hell just tell anybody that knows about brakes what you just said and I bet you'll find a similar responce.

If it's still on there, for sure. I think I may even have one from another T/A if it's not.

Make an offer and pay shipping, we'll go from there.

and what do those guys run for brakes sure as hell not shitty stock 3rdgen rear disks.i know exactly what they run my shop builds TF/TAD AF cars those brakes are nothing like u would find on a street car

discs will stop u faster but they will not hold u on the line.

what brakes do footbrake racers run ???? they run rear drums

here lemme add a picture for ya 2


that our shops car

$25 each + actual shipping front and rear


*0 with shipping address sent

*sigh*

Your shop doesn't know **** then.

I know a lot of foot brakers that run disc, because they hold BETTER than drum, especially when hot lapping. I know a few people that red lit when using drums, because they got over heated and slipped at the line, changed to disc and never had a problem again.

Even the stock rear disc of the 3rd gen is a vast improvement over the stock drums. It will also allow easier upgrades, if need be.

stock rear 3rdgen discs will not out hold a stock drum setup.

yeah wanna over heat a set of drums dont use a dam linelock for the burnout,and why do they overheat compared to discs when ur on the footbrake cause they try to lock and grab the drums.hence self energizing.
were as discs are not

go into the racing section here and tell them that ull get laughed right the hell out of there the drums hold better unless they are improperly adjusted

and as far as my shop maybe u should go look into the name and see whos cars we build

bet u u find one car in each pro class except ps bike and ps in the top 5 we have done.not to mention all the sportsman classes we do.

specially in the alky ranks

Does it have the engine in it? Judging by the height of the front end Id doubt it...but I thought Id ask.
I'm looking for some old TBI V8 stuff...

could you explain that a little better. I don't know what you mean when you say self energizing. I always thought discs had better holding power, but I don't know much about drag racing so...

that T/A still looks better than my camaro, lol. thats really sad. saving up for some new body parts and paint though.

lol cool will the cool thing is i have a 90 camaro with a 3.4 looking to do a 3500 or 3900 and twin turbo im goingfor the moon 900hp+ any way drum braks are better at drag that guy is lol anthony

Sorry Chris, no engine. It was a 383/700r4 that ran 11's, but that's going in my buddies '78 Vette.

Thats cool. It didn't look like there was one in there...thought I'd ask though.

Hey first is the hood spoken for?

If you got the tools that would make it easy, how bought you cut a section of the hood with the luvers out for me. Bigh enough so there is a good ammout of metal around them, but not so big where its gonna cost allot to ship. Would want it in one piece though, not two.

Unless them are just stickers on that car.

Its a common miss conception about disk brakes.
Fact is, that they have less braking power. The reason they are desired over drum, is they are lower drag, more consistant, preform better in wet conditions, self adjusting with no adjusting mechanism to fail, less mantiance and have better cooling, so they dont fade as fast.

You want proof that disks have less brakeing power, is the design of the pistons. In a drum brake setup the wheel cylinders are only 1/2"in daimeter or so yet still give the same amount holding power that a disk brake does that has a piston diameter of 2 inches. The bigger the piston, the more force multiplication it has.
So why can a drum brake get away with a smaller piston, ei less force multiplication, because as the wheel cylinder rotates the shoe out into the drum, the friction of the shoe and the drum causes the shoe grab onto the drum and rotate out even harder. So its in exponential increase. This action is called servo acting.
Another proof of concept is that old cars did not need power brakes, because they had drum brakes, while the pedal effort was higher then today, it was still possible to lock the brakes up.

It has all the vents, and the plastic is in good shape. If you want me to use the Makita I can make a usable cutout to graft

I'm not sure what you mean by not making them in two pieces. You telling me you want a section to include the front two only, right?

Make me a reasonable offer for my time, and they're yours

Might might might be interested in muffler and tail pipes, drivers side inside doorhandle, and err...the plastic mudguards inside the front wheel wells...know what I mean? Not sure if your car has those.

OK, all except for the exhaust it's full 3" and it's going on my car. The black car has a decent exhaust system, 2.25" if you want it after they get swapped.


I'll check on the fender plastic for you, and the handle can be yours as well. I'm taking it apart Sat.

Somthin like this but maybe not so big if its gonna kill on shipping. And I said that backwards, you could cut it right down the center line so its in two.
They would not be going into a hood So I will need to metal around them for blend metal. DUnno if they will work or not but from what Im finding they might work.

I need the steering knuckle bolts for my 91 Trans Am.. Pretty much every bolt on the right side actually..

Rear sway bar was still in the car, I have an aftermarket front that I boought a wile back and probably won't be using. I got it used for $50, so $60 plus shipping sound good for the two? I took all the mounting tabs and hardware off for you too

Haven't had time to box/weigh them, sometime this week though...




Gumby, I'll be cutting your sheet metal last minute, dont want a hacked up car sittin in the drive for too long

What size are those swaybars?

Whatever came on the WS6, if I remember, I can measure them for you.

See what im talkin about in the pic??

Cool beans Let me know how much shipping will be and we have a deal

Didn't seee that at first. Just let me know when your ready to junk it and give me a few days to check in here. Been looking and they look to be my best bet for my plan.

If the front bar is 36mm and not called for, I'd like it please.

Sway bars are ~35mm and ~26mm front/rear respectively (best I could measure, they are kinda rusty haha), still have them and all the mounting hardware.

Gumby, the car is getting hauled today. Even if I don't hear back from you before they get here, I'm vutting up the hood for 'ya just in case

Took way longer to get all the things I wanted from it than expected, but it's finally going away. Just in time too, the city complained about it last week.

I was just thinking about this and wondered what happened, id still want them pieces.

Sure it wasn't really the city though. probably someone called them.

drums +1 and +2. i will always run rear drums on a drag car. unless i need to stop from 180 mph then it will be a good set of disks. so far 9s and 134 on drums and the camaro will be eva n faster.

the wilwood rear drag kit for for 9" is a joke too. no where near the holding power hell it stoped faster with disk rear. maybe because of the big slick i dont know but it was a lot safer so i switched it back

Gumby, It's out, just need to cut it in 1/2 to reduce shipping, but I basically cut right on the red lines in your photochop

It took all of 20-30 mins for the Makita to get it out, so is $15 plus shipping fair? The company that hauled it off charged me to remove it because lack of engine, so I robbed everythig I could in the 2 hrs it took them to get to the house, and hope to recover a little with the parts. I even kept the crosslace rims; I think they will get black chrome powdercoat with polished lips and raised areas in the crosslace

...and it was definately the city. They come by often and can write you up if they can see your garbage cans from the road. A neighbor left a pile of brush on the side of the road for 3 weeks and I think that may have drawn attention to the lot of us. Several neighbors were "written up" after that mess, and I was caught "with my pants down" so to speak.

More their fair Dude, thanks. [ Ill PM ya my info]

Yea most just want that metal for scrap weight which is so low now it probably cost to haul it away if al lthey do is scrap it. The few cars I have junked I made sure were for only scrap. Took a hammer to all the body corners n creases, smashed al lthe gauges, filled engine and trans n gas tank full of water. Cause if they can, they will try and make more off it but when they tell me ohh its not worth anything but we will haul it away for free, I make sure its worth nothing.

is there anything left inside ?

I kept the map pocket, radio, and all the switches etc from the dash. The car was pretty much trashed when I got it.

I mainly wanted the rear, exhaust, aluminum driveshaft and manual steering for my car, so it was kinda worth it, even though I had pay to get rid of it, just to have the convenience of pulling the part in my driveway.

TTT

Thanks for the reminder Gumby

I'm working 2 jobs full time and judt need to remember to package your hood louvers up when I'm home

I've only been able to say good morning to the kids M-F and watch a soccer game on Sat and Sun, the rest of the time I'm either at the shop or construction site.

I wish I had a little bit of that up here...Ive just been put on partial unemployment while working 20 hours a week

I'm having to fill the rest of the budget,since the ecnomy crashed my wife's job is non-existant (wholesale mortgage loan processor)

Both of my incomes isn't what what her one job was paying 2 yrs ago...

Its ok just want to get you paid.

bump ya again, still to cold to do any work on it just send me a bill when ever.