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ok so today i went and put the car on the dyno to get a rough idea as to what the car was running n/a and at low boost. however the clutch pretty much gave up as soon as it got into boost so these numbers from what i can tell are all motor
174.6hp and 210tq @ 4332 rpms(which is when the clutch slipped) at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle
my full throttle run just blew the clutch out
not great but not to shabby with pretty much 0 boost, and i couldnt get it any higher than those rpms so i still had a lot left. this should give you guys an idea of what the 3.4 is capable of. i was hoping for closer to 200hp and 250tq on motor alone but its close. i wonder if i wouldve gained more if i couldve got the rpms up on it.
the graph shows that its still pulling hard as boost kicks in so who really knows what im gonna get number wise with a clutch and 10-15psi
thats a 41hp and 35tq gain over my 3.1
this is also with a bad exhaust leak and a safe tune
174.6hp and 210tq @ 4332 rpms(which is when the clutch slipped) at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle
my full throttle run just blew the clutch out
not great but not to shabby with pretty much 0 boost, and i couldnt get it any higher than those rpms so i still had a lot left. this should give you guys an idea of what the 3.4 is capable of. i was hoping for closer to 200hp and 250tq on motor alone but its close. i wonder if i wouldve gained more if i couldve got the rpms up on it.
the graph shows that its still pulling hard as boost kicks in so who really knows what im gonna get number wise with a clutch and 10-15psi
thats a 41hp and 35tq gain over my 3.1
this is also with a bad exhaust leak and a safe tune
Not bad...
I'm sure the numbers would have been higher if you had been able to go WOT. Besides, if the clutch was giving out at only 1/2 to 3/4 throttle, it obviously wasn't holding well at all before that. Swap that Spec clutch in and redo the N/A numbers. I'm sure they'll be a lot closer to that 200RWHP and 250lb-ft you were hoping for.
DAMN...I'm almost tempted to donate the money you would need for the Spec clutch...ALMOST. LOL! I wish I were made of money...
I'm sure the numbers would have been higher if you had been able to go WOT. Besides, if the clutch was giving out at only 1/2 to 3/4 throttle, it obviously wasn't holding well at all before that. Swap that Spec clutch in and redo the N/A numbers. I'm sure they'll be a lot closer to that 200RWHP and 250lb-ft you were hoping for.
DAMN...I'm almost tempted to donate the money you would need for the Spec clutch...ALMOST. LOL! I wish I were made of money...

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yeah i think itll be better with everything tuned and full throttle nor did i get through the whole rpm band but its going smooth straight up on the graph. im not dissapointed in the numbers becuase i know whats all wrong with it but i think it can be better
haha i could start up a collection from everyone
if you change your mind pay pal is pillsbry10@aol.com 

haha i could start up a collection from everyone
if you change your mind pay pal is pillsbry10@aol.com 
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Come one! Come ALL! Open your wallets brothers and sisters! Donate to the Pillsbry10 Turbocharged 3.4L V6 Clutch Fund! Consider it your tithe to the CHURCH OF HORSEPOWER! *tent-revival preacher voice*
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Come one! Come ALL! Open your wallets brothers and sisters! Donate to the Pillsbry10 Turbocharged 3.4L V6 Clutch Fund! Consider it your tithe to the CHURCH OF HORSEPOWER! *tent-revival preacher voice*
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hahahaha
i feel like i should go out and smack it on the nose and say "your healed!! PRAISE THE LORD"
i feel like i should go out and smack it on the nose and say "your healed!! PRAISE THE LORD"
ROTFLMFAOR!
*speechless*
LMFAO!
*still laughing*
AMEN BROTHER! BELIEVE! AND IT SHALL BE DONE, SO SAYETH THE LORD!...blah...blah...blah...
LOL!
*speechless*
LMFAO!
*still laughing*
AMEN BROTHER! BELIEVE! AND IT SHALL BE DONE, SO SAYETH THE LORD!...blah...blah...blah...
LOL!
OOOH! Don't forget to sing Kumbiyah! You can't lose with that combination! LOL!
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hp and tq was only at 35% throttle and about 1 psi of boost not even
picture below shows were he got out of it

get a few issues cleared up and u should b looking at around 290ish rwhp and 350rwtq @ 5 psi if not better that car is going to be a beast once the boost gets turned up
u need to get a new dyno guy, seriously the wideband was well into the danger range 18.0 afrs and he still went for the pull.granted something happened and the wideband went out but had it been reading correctly that could have cost u a motor.
\ the car is overly rich and throwing a false lean condition i gota go threw the logs better but they show a 18ms pulse width on 48 pound injectors which shouldnt be so its way rich.
im 90% sure this is form the antirev system settings being way toi strict cause that system actually pretty much makes the motor go dead rich and pulls back timming to kill off power to stop it from revving up. so for now switch back to the defualt-safe.msq file. once u do that u will have to reload the ve and spark tables again use the updated spark and fuel tables the n1 files with the defualt msq file
btw can u post the dyno gaph please
picture below shows were he got out of it

get a few issues cleared up and u should b looking at around 290ish rwhp and 350rwtq @ 5 psi if not better that car is going to be a beast once the boost gets turned up
u need to get a new dyno guy, seriously the wideband was well into the danger range 18.0 afrs and he still went for the pull.granted something happened and the wideband went out but had it been reading correctly that could have cost u a motor.
\ the car is overly rich and throwing a false lean condition i gota go threw the logs better but they show a 18ms pulse width on 48 pound injectors which shouldnt be so its way rich.
im 90% sure this is form the antirev system settings being way toi strict cause that system actually pretty much makes the motor go dead rich and pulls back timming to kill off power to stop it from revving up. so for now switch back to the defualt-safe.msq file. once u do that u will have to reload the ve and spark tables again use the updated spark and fuel tables the n1 files with the defualt msq file
btw can u post the dyno gaph please
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yeah they arent the best dyno people but they get the job done, i was trying to watch my afr and my tach at the same time and listen for the clutch to go lol
ill post that graph later, its real small and hard to see i dunno if i can get a good pic of it
hahahahaha fallen2603 thats funny gave me a great idea for a youtube video
ill post that graph later, its real small and hard to see i dunno if i can get a good pic of it
hahahahaha fallen2603 thats funny gave me a great idea for a youtube video
Oh, yeah...plenty of power left to be found. 
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posted pic of graph..not a great pic.
yeah i didnt feel like it was the max of what i was going to get out of it, but at least it gives everyone an idea
yeah i didnt feel like it was the max of what i was going to get out of it, but at least it gives everyone an idea
I'll help direct this YouTube video!
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heres some odd info lol pull stoped at 100 mph it took 4.2 seconds to go from 60mph to 100 mph at part throttle
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its deff rich check out the duty cycle and fuel flow at the bootomg of the grapgh
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DAAAMMMNNN!!!!!!! praise be the lord, now let us bow our heads( as you see the preacher pass out three tithing plates) with just a little more donation.........
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more donatations and less detonation brothers and sisters
the next time it goes on the dyno it will have a clutch and hopefully all the tuning worked out so the next numbers will be more impressive, either way for the problems it had it put out decent numbers with no boost
the next time it goes on the dyno it will have a clutch and hopefully all the tuning worked out so the next numbers will be more impressive, either way for the problems it had it put out decent numbers with no boost
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LMAO! I'm sure we're reserving our spots in hell...Originally Posted by Pillsbry10
more donatations and less detonation brothers and sisters Oh, wait, forgot that I don't believe in god. F*** YOU GOD!!

Hmmm...didn't get hit by lightning...that proves it.
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hey tires will get great tracking in hell...they will be nice and sticky with no burnout needed
HELL YEAH!
And the boiling pits of oil! We won't have to buy oil for oil changes! And we can refine it into gasoline ourselves! Make some 110+ octane for FREE!
And the boiling pits of oil! We won't have to buy oil for oil changes! And we can refine it into gasoline ourselves! Make some 110+ octane for FREE!
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Come one! Come ALL! Open your wallets brothers and sisters! Donate to the Pillsbry10 Turbocharged 3.4L V6 Clutch Fund! Consider it your tithe to the CHURCH OF HORSEPOWER! *tent-revival preacher voice*
LMAOR!
Uhm, yea.... f-that... that would mean he's going to bring that p.o.s. over here again... (aside from tomorrow to redo/coat the turbo plumbing)...Originally Posted by Fallen2603
LMAO!Come one! Come ALL! Open your wallets brothers and sisters! Donate to the Pillsbry10 Turbocharged 3.4L V6 Clutch Fund! Consider it your tithe to the CHURCH OF HORSEPOWER! *tent-revival preacher voice*
LMAOR!
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lmaoOriginally Posted by deadbird
Uhm, yea.... f-that... that would mean he's going to bring that p.o.s. over here again... (aside from tomorrow to redo/coat the turbo plumbing)... UNBELIEVER!
YOUR SOUL SHALL BE CLEANSED!

YOUR SOUL SHALL BE CLEANSED!

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Just a thought here, and probably a dumb question, but the #s you posted from the dyno are RWP and not crank right? Assuming that is the case then it is actually 200 hp at the crank, and considering the issues that isn't bad..
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Yes those are rear wheel numbers, so at the motor they are prob closer to the 200hp and 250tq I was after. However, I want those numbers at the wheels.
Still taking donations for a clutch lol
Still taking donations for a clutch lol

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I got a stock 2.8 used clutch you can have for free.









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Well with a somewhat modest drivetrain loss of 15% then it would be 201 at the crank if memory serves, but when I first saw the #s I didn't think of whether or not they were rwp or crank, so worried me a little, but if that's whats reaching the wheels with issues then I have little fear that mine will put out at least what yours did, and that's a relief, because I would be disappointed if I didn't at least have 200 hp out of it.
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Oh, wait, forgot that I don't believe in god. F*** YOU GOD!!

Hmmm...didn't get hit by lightning...that proves it.
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LMAO! I'm sure we're reserving our spots in hell...Oh, wait, forgot that I don't believe in god. F*** YOU GOD!!

Hmmm...didn't get hit by lightning...that proves it.
Dude, God doesn't just strike you down right away! He waits until you least expect it then gets his revenge!

PISH! That bastard has passed up a lot of awesome chances to **** my world up...LOL!
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I'm running a stage 1 spec clutch in my camaro. Engine is a 3.4l v6. I've had it in for about 6 months. I've got nothing bad to say about the clutch, it works great and doesn't slip at wot. For some reason though, the throw out bearing has started making alot of noise, so I will probably have to pull it back down to replace the bearing

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how much do you have done to your motor?Originally Posted by aviator84
I'm running a stage 1 spec clutch in my camaro. Engine is a 3.4l v6. I've had it in for about 6 months. I've got nothing bad to say about the clutch, it works great and doesn't slip at wot. For some reason though, the throw out bearing has started making alot of noise, so I will probably have to pull it back down to replace the bearing
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Nothing much as far as power goes. The motor is pretty much stock, I do have a flowmaster exhaust which helps a little. Right now I'm concentrating on keeping the car roadworthy as its my daily driver.
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oh ok...a stage 1 spec clutch is a bit over kill for a stock motor though. i could almost use one of those on mine they are rated at like 430 tq
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Ya, I know its overkill. But I figured, I wanted a good clutch that wouldn't slip, plus I won't have to worry about it when I do start working on the motor. Right now I'm mainly concentrating on fixing all of my suspension and steering, once I get that I'm going to start working on the motor. I was thinking ported heads to start, and some headers.
Anything new to add to this?
Anyone? I'm curious on dynos for 3.4L with turbo, or ported heads and cam...
Anything?
Anyone? I'm curious on dynos for 3.4L with turbo, or ported heads and cam...
Anything?





