jake92

title says it. i wanna give my little bird some more power

AmorgetRS

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Yes, you can supercharge it.

No, there is no bolt on kit.

CgMcKinney

There was a thread about someone putting a Grand Prix (I think) supercharger on their car.... but it took a LOT of mods and custom fabrication.

DeathStarr89

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http://www.fageolsuperchargers.com/


anyone tried the kit for a 2.8 Blazer?

Gumby

Those are no longer sold new, but you can find them time to time for sale used.

614street bought up all of fageol's stock afew years back and sold them off.

a instant 45% gain in power over stock, 65% with mods.

http://614streets.com/Fageol.html

614 is a member here

K-slice

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Sure would be nice if they made a supercharger for these cars..

AmorgetRS

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How many people would actually pay 2-3k for a Supercharger setup that costs almost twice as much as most of the cars are worth?

bl85c

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LOL

mcote4192

im pretty sure these motors take better to turbocharging. correct me if im wrong lol

bl85c

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It's all boost. Really doesn't matter where it comes from as long as it isn't hot air. A roots style supercharger will give you more immediate power these motors seem to need, but it may be easier for someone to plumb a turbo than make all the brackets and stuff to mount a supercharger. Besides, there's lots of neat tricks to get a turbo into boost quickly that you just can't do with a supercharger.

Gumby

Should be more postive as a mod; find a way to make it work then poop poo everything And the goin rate for a fageol is around $1000 in A1 shape complete.

AmorgetRS

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That is used, what did they cost new? I just try to be realistic but normally for making one work it falls under "if you have to ask" (and that comes from personal experience as much as anything).

I love Thirdgens, but I am under no delusion that a market exists for an aftermarket supercharger for the V6 model. Heck, a market barely exists for the V8s. A turbo kit, maybe, but not a supercharger.

bl85c

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X2. If I were going to supercharge one of these I'd pick up a paxton cheap and do the fabrication myself.

Gumby

Well brand new in the day when Fageol sold them, I bet it cost some change.

I know when 614 bought up and sold off all the NOS stuff, his auction started in the $900 range and bidders set the final price.

I have not seen a kit in A1 shape being sold for more then $1000 myself.
[and that would be a complete kit, bolt on and go]

Though if its still installed on a car/truck [most went on trucks], who knows then. But its odd, lots n lots of folks bought them, but never installed them.

[Course I am guilty of that also. But the guy who wanted it, was going to go above and beyond a bolt on install and I felt it was only right to pass it on to him. It was meant to be on his 60* ]
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f30/83...ojects-404743/

92camarorv6

yas thay do make a bolt on kit for the 60* v6 camaro and i have alot of add of chevy racing info to be posted soon and chevy did the fwd heads o a rwd block in 85 and paxton makes this kit

AmorgetRS

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Do make or did make? I don't think Paxton still makes a kit for the V8 TPI cars anymore, much less for the V6.

Gumby

Should be pretty univerals still though ehy???

Not allot to their kits, just a belt driven turbo n some piping.

or we talking intaked bolt on stuff like Fageol?

AmorgetRS

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I guess... but then I can say that Paxton makes a Supercharger for a 1956 Plymouth, too....

You problem would be how to attached the belt drive to the crank, and how to attach the SC to the engine. You would end up making a ton of parts.

Camaro305SB

I've seen it done with a 3800 and yes, a lot of custom stuff. Right off the bat the throttle body would aim right into the firewall.

Gumby

Im still not sure what kind were talking about, the Paxton stuff I have seen, is the dia of a AC unit, just not as long, that is just a pulley/gear driven turbo [instead of exhaust driven] it would go easily in place of the AC unit on a car without AC or broken AC. The rest would be simple plumbing.

AmorgetRS

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The Paxton doesn't use the stock Serp belt. You need WAY more tension then the stock accessories offer to drive a SC. Thus you need an extra belt and tensioner mounted to the crank shaft.

For reference:

Gumby

Didn't know it needed its own belt alone. Though still a serp belt to allow slip during a back fire [why its not a cogg/teeth belt? ]

intresting pic though, looks like it would go right on a 60*, just put the alt on the other side and the MAF on the Paxton intake side

bl85c

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So they put fwd heads on an '85 f-body 2 years before the first alum head fwd had them? Looks like I need to pull out the flag.

92camarorv6

yes do u ralley think gm is going to tell u what thay had going on so u could maybe tell ford or dodge

K-slice

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Heres an easy way to supercharge your 3.1!



That Paxton setup does look pretty cool though, on a more serious note.

bl85c

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Naa, just take the end off a leaf blower and duct tape it to the throttle!

AmorgetRS

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And then hookup some NNAWWWS to the intake of the leaf blower!

firebird904

Way ahead of you


Yep should give me about a good 50-100 hp once I come around to putting in there I hope my block holds up to all that boost though. Anyone think I should go with forged internals?

Project 3.4 Camaro

dont forget to take that 205 mph sticker off the leafblower and put it on the car.

Project 3.4 Camaro

And to the OP, the easiest way to supercharge a 60/6 is to get an m90 from a ford thunderbird, they can be had for 100-300$, I think the 3.8 ones from the buicks can't be intercooled but I may be wrong, the tbird ones I know can be. Generally (assuming my understanding of how the flow routes through them is correct) you seal off the big square hole, mount it where the AC was, put a cone filter where it had the throttle body when it was on a ford, then run the side pipe into an IC if you use one, or if not run it into your maf, and that into the tbody.

Oh, and I'm actually planning to do this myself once I get the car back on the road and finish sprucing it up a bit. Also forgot to mention that you need to make sure you are either A: making 6 psi of boost or less, or B: have a tuneable ECM setup and forged pistons, also anything over 6 psi, or 6 psi of boost and other mods or bigger engine(3.4 swap) and you will need a bigger fuel pump, you will probably need injectors with any level of boost regardless of whether you have mods.

Project 3.4 Camaro

It might be plausible, could've been that the aluminum heads weren't on the market yet, they had an R&D set, tried it out, personally I never understood why the freaking W-bodies got better v6s than the F-bodies, how much more work would it have been to bolt up the aluminum heads and intake setup and just put some pistons with bigger dishes in, honestly...
But anyway, GM has tried some crazy things, including v8 fwd cars, they had a lumina prototype with a 305 in it and awd, they actually made for 1yr(i think?) a monte carlo ss with a 5.3(i think?) ls, same as used in some trucks I believe. So they might have tried it......

K-slice

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XD

92camarorv6

wow is all i can say and 3rd gen RS u stole my idela