what mods would my friend have to do to get his 90 firebird 3.1 auto to hang with the 3800 v6 of today?

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1989 pontiac firebird
bright red exterior(just repainted)
grey interior
5 spd
305 TBI (stock)
WS.6 formula wheels
3.73 posi rear end
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system: 2 10" MTX thunder 2000 in a Professionally done custom bandpass box.
Blaupunkt CD player
Blaupunkt 4x6 and 6x9
600 watt rockford fosgate 4.6 amp

thinking about a flowmaster

 

Cold air intake, Exhaust, and maybe a chip. That should be enough if he had a manual.

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
TB Coolant bypass
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires

 

350 would be the best mod

 

1. Crane 2030 Cam
2. 1.52 Roller Lifters
3. 3.73 Rear Gears and Posi
4. K&N's
5. Pulleys
6. Dynomax Cat back
7. Catco High Flow Converter
8. Shift Kit/ Corvetter Servo

and for some fun toss in NOS

 

headers and full exhaust, intake,roller rockers,customchip,headwork,pulleys,throttle body,gears,shiftkit,ignition upgrade,cam,etc.

you'll need about 200 hp to hang with a 3.8, so with all those mods you might be right at that. OR spend 500 bucks on a nitrous kit

 

Well you he could do all that, or he can just put an old lady behind the wheel of the 3800.

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88 RS----
K&N filters.
ram air setup.
speed limiter bypass.
flow master exhaust.
advanced timing.
Quick pick up top end...

Kills:
Freeway----
99 Rustang (5 speed v6. )(No contest)
98 Eclipse Rs(never had a chance)
92 Integra(what the hell was he thinking)
99 Civic rice wagon
87 B2000 (He started it)

Street---
84 Hundai(Don't ask)
98 VW Beetle
89 Sentra

 

Depends on the old lady...my grandmother just got pulled over for 20 over in her '98 Acheiva 3.1. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't read her speedometer

3.1 Firebird and Brian K got it all covered.

 

Shoot yea. With old ladies its either go fast as hell and let everyone get out of your way, or its go slow as a civic and hit everyone in your way. ITS TRUE!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

 

what better way to beat a 3800 then a turbo 3.8.. im sure you could find one in a boneyard pretty easy for about the same cost of all the listed mods...

 

oh yeah, if you get a turbo 3.8 from a Turbo T/A or so, it wouldn't be worth the race, do you know how bad of a spanking that 3.8 would get, heck, you'd be running LS1's off the road. Also, a 3.8L has 200hp, but i don't think you'll need a full 200hp to beat him, maybe a little less, just a little, because 3rdgens are more aerodynamic than 4th's and also, your car will weigh several hundred pounds less, you could probably pull it off with 185-190hp.

 

scoob,

If it was so easy to find a 3.8 Turbo, I'd have one!

I have seen one in the last 5 years. These engines were so rare to begin with, let alone finding a car in a boneyard that still has one. When was the last time you saw a GN or Regal T-type in a boneyard?

Even if you do find one, any junkyard is gonna know what they have...it won't be cheap

 

look for regals or wrecked GN's.. youll never find a TTA in a yard, but my local yard i hit up all the time had 2 regals and a smashed up GN minus the rear end.. did a little pricing, i was quoted 650+ core for the motor alone..