No flames!!

Now i used to have a Pontiac Firebird V6 (dearly departed ( ). When i bought it two years ago, it was in MINT condition, so i never even bothered doing anything to it. Hardly ever even popped the hood. I assumed it was bone stock, just by looking at the exhaust and the engine.

The car was quick! My kill list included a brand spankin' new 5-speed Celica GT and Ford Lightning (by a bumper), plus a late 80's Mustang GT.

As hard as it is to believe about the lightning, i dunno. I couldn't see the guy cuz he had tinted windows and it was nighttime. But he was definately going for it, we both took off hard at the light and just floored it from the roll (at least i floored it). It was a short race up to about 45 mph. On a cold night, with only a pint of gas in the tank, amazing things can happen.

But my car could hit 30 in the low 2's. I see all your times all in the low-mid 3's at best, with all sorts of mods. But after 40 the car was a dog. It still hit 60 in under 9. I'm sure i coulda hit HIGH-7s if i emptied the gas and took it out on a cold night.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to dog on your cars. But was my car by any chance possessed??? What kind of mods could the car have that i couldn't see? Thermo? Chip? Cam? Ignition? Hiked Fuel Pressure? Another thing i noticed, my car had the cleanest start i've ever seen. Better than many of the luxury cars i've driven at work. Even a quick flick of the wrist was too long. Definately didn't have gears.

Then i figured i was hallucinating, so soon after i got a chance to drive someone else's V6 with all sorts of exhaust mods. The car was excruciatingly slow. I dunno, it's really confusing.

[This message has been edited by mostafa3k (edited March 22, 2001).]

 

BTW, if it helps. My gas milage sucked. As low as 8 mpg (very rare) i averaged about 13 mpg. But on long road trips averaging 85 mph, i could get about 27.

 

Im getting the same gas mileage with the mods below..no cam

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1989 Firebird
2.8 v6, t5 swapped in

Ram Hi-po clutch, Cold Air, 1.6 rockers (ready to install), Lakewood LCA's, Lakewood Lift bars, 3" y-pipe, Random Tech Cat, 3" I-pipe, Flowmasters, MSd 6a, MSD Coil (Fireball in future) Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Ignition Module, 4th Gen Seats (not front yet)

" I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT run at all ".

 

Well, considering you said it died after like 40, you coulda had a lower gear in the rear. That would increase your 0-60 times. What year was yours. Cam work, MPFI porting, Chip, aftermarket exhaust, anything could have increased your times.

Next time, try naming your post a lil different. I'm going to keep this open, but if it starts to turn into ANY type of flame war, it's locked.

 

Yeah, i thought about that after i posted. Shoulda been "What's up with my V6, why so fast?"

Mine was a '91



[This message has been edited by mostafa3k (edited March 22, 2001).]

 

actually, i think that 91's had slower gears, 3.23 vs. our older 3.42's. My car is pretty quick, well, peppy for a v6, it'll get up and go when i want it to, unfortunately now it only has 2 gears but anyway. NOw with my old 2.8L i was able to hang with 305's running on 7 cyls or 8 weak cyls (please no flames) made a decent run against a 350 El Camino once, from a standstill-he beat me by a door it was nice, well actually the guy only said it was a 350 but judging by the 10in. tires on the rear, the candle apple paint, and the "phat79" lisence plate, not to mention a really nice sounding exaust note with dual pipes, i'm assuming it was either a 350 or a beefed up 305. I'll go ahead and post my kill list, but just last week, i raced a v6 RS, he held with me at first, but when my car hit 3100 RPM's I left him in dust, ended up pulling nearly 3 car lenghts on him by the middle of second gear (55mph) then i stopped it. Anyway, some cars come off the assembly line faster, some cars are well-kept, some cars are dogged by the original owner, My father was the original owner of my car, so i know all the stories of what it's gone through, and the upkeep he did. Anway, i'll end this now. bye.

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the 85 firebird, the first firebird that doesn't burn out....

It eats the pavement!!!

KILL LIST: (SHORT BUT GROWING)

Dodge Daytona (think a 2.2),Honda Acorda (2.0L),2000 Camaro (3.8L),1992 Mustang (V6),1987 Firebird (2.8L),80's probe (4 banin'),90's malibu,90's 4 door Saturn, (wow, that was a slow ride, even slower than me.),91 Celica GT conv.,Acura Integra, 5speed DOHC 4 cylinder. * 86-90 Pontiac T/A, 305ci. (might not have been running well, but i'll count it anyway.), mid 90's Ford Mustang GT 4.6L tags. (beat him in a turning contest), 3rd gen RS camaro( beat him by more than 2 cars), Celica GT (this guy was a crazy racer)
---came close----
1979 camaro (5.7),1981 camaro (5.7),1982 firebird (5.0) my tires spun, I coulda beat em!!! ,79 El Camino (350, lost by a door),96' Mustang, 3.8L stickshift. (caught him after my car downshifted.)

 

A SVT Ford F-150 Lightning??? That is REAL hard to swollow! Don't get me wrong, I love my '89 Camaro V6 to death, but I've had the pleasure of driving one of these trucks and it could kick the **** out of my car. I'm not sure on any stats, but it is one fast *** truck. 0-60 in a blink of an eye! I normally hate Fords, but after driving this, I was extremely impressed.

 

yep, zero to sixty in less than six. Maybe he was a crappy driver. I know the guy in the celica gt missed a shift, but it didn't matter cause i heard from about three cars ahead of him anywayz.

 

No way in hell you took a SVT Lightning. that is a mid to low 13's car stock. Bullsh*t. He was'nt trying at all

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Steve
88 Firebird TBI,TH700R4 - Open Element, Cat Delete, K&N filter 14*4 element
1/4: 16.1@85.7

 

Yeah, I tried a Ford Lightning a few years ago when my 'bird was in prime shape. I kept up til he realized I was trying...

Personally, I've stopped messing with chassis that are larger then mine, cause after the SOB stomped me like two lights in a row and I was just having fun and passing time on the way to my grandma's by even trying, he literally tried to run me off the road. Sore winner...

As for low end, yeah, sounds like you had some killer gears out back, low gas mileage, ***** up to 40, was it a real high revver on the highway at 60 or 70 do you remember?

-Reno

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'88 Firebird LB8
"Cerberus"
-Supercharged Hybrid LB8/L32 Project-
"You think you're weak and maybe I'm the cure, but I've got 6 pistons in my engine, and I got one for ya...it's a long shot"
http://www.angelfire.com/il/Firebird28/index.html

 

i beat a f-150lightning no one belves me but hey i know it happendwr got into the tripple digits

 

Ok, I just checked. With me (200lbs) a 50lb floor jack, and other crap in my car, on a full tank of gas, with the AC on, and spinnin my tires, I ran 0-30 in 3.12, and 0-60 in 9.21. Also keep in mind my car has 156000 miles on it, so I assume that's ok.



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Smile, you're in my rearview I'm joking, I have a v6.
See pics @ Billy's Firebird
92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....
DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!
Kills:
93 Mustang LX (Before Mods),98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40),
92 Camaro RS 305 TBI-Not too fair, his fuel pump went out 2 days later. Nice car, but not running right. 97+ Honda somethin or another...modded....kept at my door the entire way
Close Calls
94 Grand Am 3.1 V6, 92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)
Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N
AIM name OVRCLCK350

 

 

Monkie, long time no see!

 

No it wasn't a high revver on the freeway. 2000 rpms was about cruising speed. That's why i'm pretty sure there were no gears, but i did notice that i could crack 6k rpms easily on launch, it only took a split second to get all the way up there.

 

I have a friend who owns a little 2.8 crossfire injection camaro. Its a scraming little suker. "and its pink" he took me for a ride when he got it, the little 2.8 went 115 in a little over a qmile. he actualy beat my 82firebird 305 before i made some $$$$ mods. but he did kill a few ponies. i think they would die if they knew they got dusted by a 2.8.

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85 Camaro RS T tops 350/350, stealth intake. holley street avenger 670. ported 58cc heads. comp magnum 270H cam,Crane 1.6 roller rockers,edelbrock accu-drive, MSD 6 series ignition on HEI, K&N extream air cleaner, true dual exhaust with 18 inch glasspacks.
82 Firebird 305/250 action plus intake, accel distributer with ccs 8mm wires foam air filter.
The only "cat" i have uses the litter box

 

supersportchevy, first of all a "cross-fire" injected 2.8 didn't exist. and secondly your 85 "RS" isn't a RS.

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1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
2.8 V6, TCI 3200 Stall TC, B&M Transkit, 2.5" 80 Series Flowmaster & Catback, '85 Firebird SE 3.73 Rear (in spring)
'83 Z/28 Hood, '87 IROC Wheels, '92 Z/28 Bowtie Grille, IROC Gauges, IROC Taillights, IROC Foglamps

1985 Firebird SE
2.5 I4, T-5, 3.73 rear (going to the sport coupe)

 

Ooooohhhhh........

LOL j/k. Keep it cool guys.

 

Ok if you must get all pissy . 1st my friend does have a 2.8 and the manifold does say crossfire injection "its not a sticker"
Second my 85"RS" is an og Z28 with body parts from a 91 RS making it an RS. myself and many others have done this and thier isnt one of us who say our cars are Z28 we say "RS".
Ghetto RS if you must

 

Mostafa3k
<quote>
"Another thing i noticed, my car had the cleanest start i've ever seen...Even a quick flick of the wrist ."</quote>
Actually, my parents had an 89 Celebrity (2.8), i use to drive when I was 16, and I know what your talking about, it was the strangest when you started it up, you could let off the key after cranking it for 2 seconds, and 2-3 seconds later it would suddenly be running.

I had two friends, one was driving a 79 Ford LTD (302) and the other had an 87 Pontiac Pressiane(305) (spelling?)

We raced to about 60-70Km/h, and ever time I would toast them, I had to race the pontiac 3 times, the first two times he had excuses, and the third time he gave in and said I won fair. Mind you those two cars could do a very nice one wheel burn out, while the Celebrity was a small chirp...

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1987 Firebird
2.8L Auto
T-Tops
New Paint last Fall
No mods yet...

[This message has been edited by Joe_L (edited March 25, 2001).]

 

Sigh...SUPER, what's the matter with you? There's gotta be some foolery happening with that car. The crossfire injection system was only available in 1982 and 83 models. And only the 305, to boot. What did the air intake system look like on the car? Also, the crossfire injection system is nothing more than an ordinary TBI system in which the injectors feed the opposite engine side as to which they are on. The stock 82 CFI 305 only cranked out 165 horseys at 4200 RPM. While it did push a respectable 240 lb-ft or torque, it would not have been able to hit 115 in the quarter, given those stats. Next time you see your friends car, count how many spark plugs he has on that thing. I'd love to see how someone could have bolted a V8 CFI manifold onto a V6.

 

Agreed. There is no way that the 2.8 your friend had was crossfire injection. The 82-84 2.8's were ALL Rochester E2SE 2bbl carberuators. The 85-92 2.8/3.1 motors were ALL multiport injection.

Your friend had a sticker.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
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hmmmm If I had a z28 and has rs badges on it I'd say "this is my Z28. I put newer ground effects on it from a '91 rs, so it would look cooler." or something to that effect. otherwise I'd just pop of the rs badges and put the z/28 badges where they belong.

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1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
2.8 V6, TCI 3200 Stall TC, B&M Transkit, 2.5" 80 Series Flowmaster w/ 2.25" Catback, '85 Firebird SE 3.73 Rear (soon)
'83 CFI Z/28 Hood, '87 16" IROC Wheels on Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's, '92 Z/28 Bowtie Grille
IROC Gauges, IROC Taillights, IROC Foglamps w/ retrofitted 9005 hi-beam headlight bulbs

1985 Firebird SE
2.5 I4, T-5, 3.73 rear (going to the sport coupe)
Beat to a pulp.

 

i just thought of something. i can say my '88 v6 is a z/28 then. "yup this is my '83z z/28-'87 IROC-'86 IROC-'92 z/28 - 88 sport coupe. my '83 z/28 hood, '86 iroc gauges and tailights, '87 IROC foglights and drivers side fender, and '92 bowtie grille must make my v6 so fast that it's faster than all those aforementioned cars since it's got a bit of all of em' on it.

 

ok someone slap me. I just posted a "monkie" I think all complete bs and/or flame posts should be known as "monkies"

ya know like "yup. Ovrclck350 pulled a monkie.

or yeah, TomP sure hit him with a monkie.

in honor of Monkie I guess.

 

hah....you monkied up the board.

quit monkieing around

 

Shoot, if I had a V8, I'd put V6 badgings all over it and race like that cuz when other people with 8's in there cars think they're about to blow a 6 off the line they'd get on heck of a suprise instore for them.

 

When I junked my V-6 I left the badges on. Too bad it's obvious that I have a V-8. That damn thing sticks out of the hood 3-1/2 inches. I know what you guys are saying about the 6's being so slow. Mine was hurt when I bought the car and I kept thinking the moped riders were laughing at me.

 

I cant wait to hit the Strip with my v6. I will get a good laugh when I tunr a 13.5 and tell everyone "Its just a V6". Ofcourse 13.5PSI of Turbo Boost doesn't hurt either.

I just got to get this car together before I can run at the track.

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FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
86 Trans Am 355 TPI Rebuilt 700R4 with Corvette servo, modified valve body, and a B&M Torque Converter (2000 rpm stall w/ lock up), 87 350 block bored .30 with new crank. Reworked 305 heads with 3-angle valve job. Added in the rebuild was an SLP TPI cam, BBK 58mm Throttle Body,MSD 6A, Hypertech Power Coil, 1.5 Crane roller tipped rocker arms, SLP Intake Runners and Port matching in upper intake including fully ported plenum, TPIS adjustable fuel pressure regulator @ 46psi, Hooker shorty style headers w/ Thermotech heat wrapping, Custom 3” exhaust with Flowmaster muffler and chrome quad tips, Hypertech Thermomaster Computer chip, K&N open element cone filter on modified MAF per TPIS specs, MSD Wires, removal of A/C hardware and added a 1LE firewall cover installed. Also there has been a PST front suspension kit with Hotchkis strut tower brace added. Soon to have Intrax lowering springs.
http://geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Garage/9548/kyle.html

Kills:
95 Talon TSI, 96 Probe GT, 91 T/A L98, 89 RS, 86 Mustang GT, 88 Mustang LX 5.0, 92 Thunderbird V8. couple or ricers that I think were Civics or Preludes not sure what year, 95 Celica GT-S, 94 Chevy 1/4 ton 350, one of those NASCAR F150's

The Third Gen Will Never be Forgotten