I don't have any #s for my cars but i was just wondering if any of you do. I have heard some people saying they can spin the tires on thier stock or almost stock V6, 2.8 or 3.1. I have both and neither can even break the tires loose except on a patch of gravel etc.... So can most of your V6s break the tires loose? if so what mods? I am mostly wondering because I want to know that my car is doing what it should be able to do and nothings wrong with it.

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1992 RS 3.1
1985 POS (SC 2.8 CFI)

 

When I had the 2.8 under the hood, it spun tires. It went fast.
After I blew that engine, I slipped in a 3.4.
I use the factory offered 200 foot pounds of torque, now, to spin the tires, more! The Firebird now goes faster.

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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA

 

Something is probably wrong if you can't spin the tires. I have a 92 bird with an auto. It will white smoke both tires off the line without power braking it. They grab between 2500 and 3500 depending on traction and if both are spinning or just one. I also chirp them going into second thanks to the shift kit. I can power brake it up to about 4000 rpm in second and really burn the tires. This is with slightly better than stock tires.

 

Yep, I can spin my tires up to 6k RPM without even powerbraking. And if I ride the brake while the tires are spinning, it'll come to a nice stop with the tires still spinning! hehe, pretty nice show. Maybe lookin into full tune up then try to burn them up again. Payce.

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Eibach and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"I'm out to seek those pesky VTEC boys!" (don't get me wrong, I'm asian myself! hehe)

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro.

 

I must have a problem then

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dont worry, youre not alone. my 87 2.8 wont spin em without usin the brakes either

 

I would agree, A tune up would probably fix it. I know the 2.8's will do it because my buddies did even with a blown headgasket. Don't forget air filter (k&N), fuel filter, timing, cap, rotor, plugs, make sure wires work, tune the shift points with the linkage (I can explane if you need), tb bypass, remove screens on maf, open up filter housing, etc. I included the last three because they are so easy to do and are free. Everything above could be accomplished in 1-3 hours depending on your skill and cost about $30-$40, pretty cheap.
If you really want torque look into coil, msd, wires. Great mods to gain some torque at idle.

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92 Firebird 3.1 ~ MSD ignition, coil, 8.5mm wires, Exaust, cat, ram air, k&n, tbi bypass, new moog suspension, hotchkiss tie rod links, sfc's, kyb's, wonderbar, coils, ES poly bushings, lower control arms, panhard bar, 17" rims, 265/40/17 kumo tires. 86 Camaro 2.8, 1951 Chev 327, Four-wheeling hybrid with 40" tires, chevy engine, chevy tranny, jeep axles, pulls 1000 on 23 degree ramp.

 

Hmm...something's wrong with mine too. From a dead stop, I cannot get my tire to break loose. I think it may have chirped once. If I stall it up though, I can.

 

Wow thats strange. I guess the stock ignitions are just weak in these cars. My 3.1 just had an almost complete tuneup, have 3 things left to do, fuel filter, check cat, and air filter. I don't think they'd effect tourque that much but we'll see. Tonight I'll go out and see if the 3.1 can spin em from a dead stop i don't think they even chirp.

P.S.
Hotrod post that explanation on how to tune the shift points. Also if anyone else has some more ideas/tuning/mods that will help let me know, I am thinking an aluminum driveshaft would help somewhat.

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1992 RS 3.1
1985 POS (SC 2.8 CFI)

 

I would guess that tires have alot to do with the ability of a car to do a burn out. Mine aren't much of a performance tire and I can smoke'em pretty easy especially if I start with a little power braking or the road is even slightly wet. I assume it would be alot harder if I had a really nice set of tires.

 

that might explain a little bit. when i bought my car, it had almost bald no name tires, and even though it wouldnt peel out from a standstill, it was a lot easier to do a brakestand and chirp em in reverse than when i bought my BFG Radial T/A's. but then again, it sat for 5 months before i got it on the road

 

My v8 305 TPI wouldn't even spin tires off of idle, much less your little 6... but after I got the full tune up, it became very hard for me to get out of a parking without filling it all with smoke.

So the moral of the story is get a tune-up.

-Max

 

im pretty sure my car got a tune up yesterday when i got it..accually almost possitive but w/e. i got a 92 3.1L auto bird with brand new front brakes, backs were good, brand new tires, not 1 day old..obviously, and the engine and tranny was replaced. were sure of that because the od says 183K and it runs solid as hell, tranny shifts perfect, can hardly feel it unless ur WOT..and the guy i bought it from was a mechanic. Anyway, our driveway has a upward slope, not alot but it goes up. i can stop the car completly, find a spot on the driveway where it wont move after i let go of the brake, and give it 1/2 throttle and the tires will brake loose for..so far..as long as i want it too. my car does brakestands real easy, and when i gunned it down this long court it spun the wheels in the beginnning untill i let off the accel. im not beating the **** outa the car, just first day test so dont flame me on that, bud i would personally tell u to get a tune up

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1992 Firebird 3.1L V6 automatic, power everything, t tops. needs some TLC and some work but very nice otherwise!

currently stock..maybe an aftermarket muffler put on before i bought the car, sounds kinda loud

 

Hey Rustang, just because it runs solid doesn't mean that it's new. Mine ran a hell of a lot better than I thought it would. Mine has around 160k on it, and I got it when it had 148K. It runs perfect except gets a lil low on the gas mileage, although I think that my 02 sensor's out. The gas mileage did increase after a thermo change though.

 

I have a TTA with 43,000miles and I can spin the tires too easily.

I think the stock rating was 350lb ft @2400 rpm.

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

Kyle, how is the TTA comin along? You haven't let us know lately. When is the estimated finish date? I gotta know so I can ask off for work

 

Overclik350 (sp?) your right an o2 sensor is also part of the tuneup. As far as tunning your shift points do the following; Find the shaft on the TB that moves when you give it gas (it is what you use to rev the engine from under the hood). There should be two cables atached to it. One is linked to your throttle, and the other goes to your transmission. You can adjust the one for your transmission to change your shift points and harshness. For a baseline adjustment push in the little button that is shaped like the letter D with you engine off. While holding this in slide the little slider all the way back towards the firewall. (This will be obvious when you are looking at it.) Get in the car and slowly floor it with the engine off. This will adjust for baseline. Now you can move your slider a little foward or backward to raise or lower your shift points. Raise and lower your shift points and drive it after adjustments to find the optimum position. Mine runs fastest in the 1/4 shifting at about 5000 rpm. Your car is probably different. Other free mods- TB bypass, remove screens, play with timing, modify filter box, remove smog pump. Those are the good, easy ones as far as engine mods go. Just look at your engine and think like an engine, what do you want: more air and fuel, less friction, less heat, etc. Do things to improve that and you will make power. Every car I have ever worked on has free power mods if you take the time to look, Chevy trucks, jeeps, firebirds, camaros, etc. Don't forget removing weight is like adding horsepower. Heavy tires and rims will really make it harder to spin. Make sure your rear drums are adjusted right so that they are not draging. I have run factory tires, BFG comp ta's, and 17" kumos and I can spin them all in 1st and 2nd gear. Good luck.

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92 Firebird 3.1 ~ MSD ignition, coil, 8.5mm wires, Exaust, cat, ram air, k&n, tbi bypass, new moog suspension, hotchkiss tie rod links, sfc's, kyb's, wonderbar, coils, ES poly bushings, lower control arms, panhard bar, 17" rims, 265/40/17 kumo tires. 86 Camaro 2.8, 1951 Chev 327, Four-wheeling hybrid with 40" tires, chevy engine, chevy tranny, jeep axles, pulls 1000 on 23 degree ramp.

 

I haven't spun tires in a while... last time I powerbraked & spun 'em was when I had the P255/70r15 tires. Then I got the P275/60r15's, and couldn't spin them. My brake system is still weak (air somewhere in the lines) after my 3.73/posi/disc swap, so now if I try a powerbrake, my "BRAKE" warning light comes on, and the car rolls forward. (sigh) That's one of my summer projects; make a pressure-bleeder to work directly on the m/c (instead of my original which worked on the brake lines) and get that damn air out!


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Stop it, Stop it! i'm gonna go blow up my freaking car and just buy a new one! Hehe, well at least one other person can't spin thier tires, tommorow i guess i will be figurin out why my car is crap. Oh yeah it's not the tires they are cheap they should spin like hek if the road is just a little wet i can spin them but dry its no dice but it almost gives me whiplash when i take off, haha just kidding.

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1992 RS 3.1
1985 POS (SC 2.8 CFI)

 

The TTA is coming along nicely, haven't got much work done on it lately because its nearing the end of the quarter here at school. My projected finis date is July 4th, seems like a good day to pick.

Though it really depends on which town I end up working in this summer. If i am at home I will be able to work on it every day and should have it done by mid June.

As long as I get to a few car shows this summer I will be happy, then comes the engine mods over the winter and next summer comes the *** kickings all Mustangs Deserve!!!!!

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

i just gave my car a tune up like a month ago and it still wouldn't spin the tires. that car is giving me too much trouble, so sorry guys, but im goin to go look at a 86 Trans Am with a 5.0 tonight. another deserter