I decided i wanted something more simple, and as everyone saw my last ram air looked like crap.. but worked. I wanted to keep everything stock looking, except the filter. I used the old ram air filter i had before and just attached it right to the MAF, and the filter sits RIGHT in the fenderwell.. it works a lot better, and as a lot of people said before i can hear it sucking too... i also have a hole under it for air passing by the car can come up into the filter (cold air) and am going to rig some sort of possible a/c ducing to move all air coming through the fog lights right into the filter..

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

Heres a picture with all my completed work including re-installing my MSD 6a..
My filter is a K&N *FastRS-Not yours, urs bit the dust when it rained last* This is the 1000cfm K&N racing filter that is 68 dollars in jegs...i like it. I need some new MSD wired to set off my engine compartment

If it doesnt show up.. click here Click HERE
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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

[This message has been edited by Graeme'sFirebird (edited August 28, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by Graeme'sFirebird (edited August 28, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by Graeme'sFirebird (edited August 28, 2001).]

 

Still cant see it even in the link.

 

http://www.geocities.com/graemeg1984/FirebirdEngNEW.jpg try copy and pasting it

 

Click the link in my signature..i put it on the first page of my site.

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

Graemes ,
You can eat off that engine ! What do you use on it to get it so clean ? it looks awesome . Wayne

 

hey, looks good! gotta love the sucking sound...mine does it too. i know you said you wanted to keep it looking mostly stock, but heres a pic of what i did. now, my car doesn't have a maf (1990) so i don't know how it would change with your car. but it would flow even better w/o those 90* turns.





sensor on OEM canister:



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1990 Firebird 3.1
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- Auto Trans, TA Body Kit
- Home Made C.A.I.
- ASP Underdrive Pulleys
- MSD 8.5mm Superconducter Wires (custom-cut)
- MSD GM Blaster Coil (8226)
- AC Delco Cap & Rotor
- Bosh Platinum +4 plugs
- Mobil 1 Synthetic Fluids
- 2.5" Hooker Aero-Chamber Cat-back (27121)
- 2.5" Hooker Elite Stainless Extension Tips (31503)
- GTS Blackouts (stickers removed - #GT034)
- TB Bypass

KILLS = Dodge Daytona, 2000 Toyota 4 Runner 4WD,
1999ish Ford Explorer XLT, "older" Jeep Cherokee, 68ish Mustang (died completely when the light went green )

LOSSES = 300zx (took me in 2nd)

"The racing dice added 5hp...I SWEAR!"

[This message has been edited by SAEspinz80 (edited August 29, 2001).]

 

Wouldn't that be "Cold air induction" instead of "Ram-air" ?

 

"too-shea" (how ever you spell it) you would be correct

 

Haha..yea your right..obviously i wasnt thinking when putting up the title

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

BTW..wayne i use Meguiars extra with a towel and spend about 1-2 hours a week cleaning everything. I did it yesterday in fact. Then every 2-3 months i get the engine steam cleaned.

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

That is one HUGE air filter!!!!! Graeme, when you get a chance, post more pics. How much did that filter set you back???? Where's your old one????

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Stock 2.8 MPFI auto w/ Flowmaster 80 Series, More to come......
New Pioneer Head Unit
Targa E-910 7-Band Equalizer w/ crossover
2x 10" Pioneer subs powered by 300 Watt Jensen amp
2- 6x9" Pioneer (rear)
More to come..... (hey, i dont got a job yet)

[This message has been edited by 89V6FBIRD (edited August 29, 2001).]

 

That K&N was about 65 bucks. The old one was just a stock drop in K&N... It looks nice and will be running a lot better when i get a new MAF

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

^^
To add, i also made a heat shield to isolate the filter from the engine out of 1/4" plywood with the reflective side of a sun shield to help out. my throttle response has picked up A LOT just because of that.. u guys might wanna look into it.

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

Hey Graeme, I also did a cold air job on my t/a. The post is on the tpi board under "cold air tech article" a little further down the page. Before I did the metal pipe, I used the pvc and didn't move the smog canister. If you change these two you'll be much happier with your throttle response and the fact that its not pvc. Doesn't cost much either. It does look really good though.

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~3.1EyeCandy~
"The Car that started my craze"

'92 Firebird 3.1 (A car sold)

My new baby: '87 flame red GTA 350 w'auto, ported and polished plenum, custom cold-air intake w/K&N, 180* thermostat, Hooker SuperComp Exhaust, Splitfire plugs, Hypertech Airfoil,
Carmine interior with pioneer all around
My Cars

jonathan_badgett@yahoo.com

 

Thx..im going to change it to 3.5" exhaust pipe when i have cash to do it, and see what i can do about that smog canister to move it, as it is its hitting the air filter and thats why its only that far in, not actually sitting in the fender. Thanks for the comment though! Ill take your advice and see what i can do.

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

No man, thank you. Back when I got my bird, I knew pretty close to nothing about my car (except that I loved it and wouldn't ever sell it...then). Thanks to you and the other norms around here at the v6 board, I got started on my old ride and got to a point where I liked pontiac thirdgens so much that I went out and got a GTA. If you'd do that pipe deal I did (and believe me its not that expensive...about 30 bucks at your local exhaust place and moving the canister is free if you have a drill and some self-tapping screws) I'd be honored to stick your tech write up alongside mine...it then being the ultimate cold air intake design for our beloved ponchos. Thanks again man.

 

Now that I actually look at your job, you are the perfect v6 candidate for my cold air idea. Don't you just hate that restrictive box thing? The 87 350 got it too. Mine was letting more air in than keeping it in, and was "fixed" with some duct tape for about a month. That engine sure is clean though.

I've got one q...where would I go about getting me engine steam cleaned? What type of establishment does this?

 

i go to a dealer, 100 bucks takes an hour.

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

BTW..ya i hate that box... i need to dump it soon!

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt

 

Whoa... dealers will steam clean the engine for you? Wow... is this just any dealer, or do you have some special super-Chevy dealer there that doesn't s*ck...

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1985 Camaro SC - 2.8L, auto.

http://www.xenodrgn.f2s.com/Frontright.jpg

 

Xenodrgn,
CHECK MANY CAR washes. They offer that service, too. Atleast the one up the street from me, does.
You know you can go to the local wash your car yourself & do it. NEED TO WRAP LOTS OF STUFF, tho!!

One way I wrap to protect is to use plastic bags or clear plastic wrap (Sarahan Wrap), rubber bands, THEN a cover of Aluminum foil squished over the clear wrap.
Been very fortunate that way!
But, I have never cleaned my Firebird engine.
Never had a desire, too.
My 1974 Corvette engine, YEP!

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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA

 

Hey Sae did you happen to get the part# for the air filter that you used, cause they don't have any that look like that in any of the part stores where i live??


Thanks

 

Ked, I'd do it myself at home, but I already destroyed my AC by giving it (the engine, not the compressor/turny thingy!) a quick rinse, so if I ever get my engine cleaned I want someone else do it, so they can pay for anything if it gets broken...

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1985 Camaro SC - 2.8L, auto.

http://www.xenodrgn.f2s.com/Frontright.jpg