vortech305

ILL JUST GET RIGHT TO THE POINT. AS SOON AS I PUT THE KEY IN THE IGNITION AND START IT UP, NOTHING HAPPENS, NO CRANK NOTHING, THE BATTERY AND LIGHTS WORK, SO IM GUESSING IT MIGHT BE A STARTER PROBLEM, THE ENGINE IS A 3.1 6 CYL. WITH AUTO. I CHECKED THE NEGATIVE GROUND FOR THE STARTER AND CLEANED IT NOTHING, COULD IT BE THAT I NEED A NEW STARTER, IF NO WHAT COULD BE THE PROBLEM??????

elevario

Have you had your battery checked? Sometimes the battery has enough juice to run other stuff but not enough to start the car. Check alternator too.

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1992 RS 3.1L Bone Stock

"Yeah, it's a V6 SO WHAT!?"

vortech305

battery is fine i tried jump starting it and nothing

Ovrclck350

try checking your VATS system

vortech305

whats a vats system???????????

Ovrclck350

Vehicle Anti-Theft Security. The chip in the key is part of the system. If you do a search on it, you'll find more info out, but it basically disables the entire fuel deliver/starter system.

CC_HotRod

Also check the ground wire that goes from the battery to the car body (Not the negative battery cable but the ground wire)

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BitchinRS

Also, besure to check you park plug wires. The distrib cap dosen't have much room for the wires and they can pop just ever so slightly and you will go no ware.

You may also want to check to see if you are getting any error codes. You ECM might be on the fritz.

camarors_guy

I had the EXACT same problem in my 91 RS. It took forever to figure out what it was. But we finally discovered it was the relay in the ignition. I got that fixed and now it works great.

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1991 Camaro RS, 3.1, K&N Air Filter..

mAjInRS

this has only happened to me twice, and both times it was the same thing, something stupid, i was late for work both times and by the time i got off work and tried to start my car it wouldnt do anyting, no noises no clicking..nothing, then i noticed my stupid @ss left it in gear, guess i didnt even bother to put it in park by the time i got to work, just pulled in and shut her off.

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RealDeal

this has happened to me way to much. the first time it was the battery, even though it couldn't be jump started. a good way to check is to turn on the electricity and the radio, then turn on your headlights and see if anything on the console or radio dims. another possibility is the solenoid being burnt out. i had a '91 also, and maybe they're all going at the same time, lol. anyway, i say have the starter checked/replaced(if necessary). by the way, when this happened to me, i asked the advice of everyone on this message board, and my car's in perfect shape now, so you're in great hands.

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'91 Camaro RS, Fresh Paint Job, K&N Filter, Twin Turbo Hood, Soon to have Hooker Cat-back

Camaro_hunter_d

If your lights and everything else comes on, thenits not the batt. Now when's the last time you checked your nuetral safety switch?. There like 5 bucks(I think). Even if the car IS in gear but if the switch is bad it's gonna read it in gear.

Now if you go down the list and the starter is good, the grounds are good and no codes. Thats your prob. I have had 1 go out in the 7 camaro's I've owned and it was a biatch to find the prob. Thats why I have auto cars. With manuals you have a sensor on the clutch pedal arm that does the same thing. You can turn the key and everyhting but no go.

Ovrclck350

What's your Security light do?

vortech305

wow i never knew id get so much responses to my question, i see that their could be 3 different possibilities, and its annoying that i cant get the damn car to start. I didnt check the ground on the starter or the neurtral safety switch whatever that is, i doubt its the security system i know about the chip in the key and if its dirty wait 3 minutes well i've done that i cleanded the key and ignition and waited 10 minutes for the hell of it and nothing, think ill leave the camaro in the garage and drive my duster.

Ovrclck350

But when you turn the key, does the Security light stay solid?

CHVYPWR

My cousins '91 305 'Bird did that and it turned out to be the starter. Take it out and have it tested. If thats OK, then it's possible the ign. switch is bad.

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vortech305

How do i test if the starter is in ok condition, once its out of the motor??

Setzer

I have a problem also. When I go to start the car, it clicks, clicks, clicks, then starts. It doesnt happen all the time but at least once a day or twice. I believe it might be something in the starter, I dont rememeber what it is called but let me know what you guys think also, thanks

~Josh~

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1992 Firebird
3.1 Liter V6
K&N Filter, everything else stock, for now!!!

Camaro_hunter_d

Bad selinoid.
Your selinoid has a bad spot. If you turn and release the key will it start after a couple times too?. Cause thats what your eventually get to. Right now it still rolls over some when being held but eventually you'll need to turn and release to get it to move.

Camaro_hunter_d

Its a backwoods test but have a set of jumper cable's ready and tap the positive side to the pos input of the starter and the neg to the neg of the starter. Oh and be sure to hold the starter down with a strong foot, that thing'll kick like a mule if its good.

Horst

I am with Camaro hunter,
I'll bet it's the solenoid.
pull it out and check for marks.

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vortech305

Well i did it, i pulled the starter out, pluged it and it defently works, thing sure kicks like a mule, now that, that problem is out of the way, I installed the starter, i checked and i notice one thing, there was this switch about the size of a golf ball, it had a pointy thing sticking out of it, and it was out of the plug so i plugged it back in, whats that switch with the pointy thing for??? anyway, i checked every possible ground, everything is tight, but like before nothing goes on, My guess is the security system from My viper auto security system model 300+. It seems as if no power is going to the starter, so the kill switch might be on, with the alarm button it seems to be working fine, but not even a click goes on, Should i take off the Viper alarm? I checked all fuses and they seem fine, What the hell could be the problem??????????????????????????

86Sprtcpe

Vortec, do you have auto or manual? if you have an auto PUT YOUR CAR IN NEUTRAL AND TRY STARTING IT. I think its because of the neutral safety switch. I have to do this everyday because when i replaced the shifter and console i did something to the switch so now my car only starts in neutral. im not really sure how to fix it, can someone help me on that? Anyways, I hope this helps cuz it sounds like your in a bind. later.

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KED85

Not knowing exactly the deatils.
Her's how I did same problem in my 1974 Corvette.
The neutral switch is on shifter in console.
It's attached by two nuts.
Loosen, slide back and forth, in park, trying to turn key. Once it's right, you'll know.
Tighten down.
IF it's not located there, this answers isn't any good, sorry.
What about the ignition switch on the column, that switch.
NOT THE KEY SWITCH,
the one at the base of steering column? You'll find it, just follow the exposed rod above your left knee. It goes there! I had to replace mine, once. Was wasted effort, tho, for my problem.

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Camaro_hunter_d

well that pointy thing I have no clue... But your viper may be to blame. When I bought my 91 RS it had an aftermarket security and I had to take it out to get the damn car to start. It seems the guy that hooked it up had no clue what he was doing and put it in wrong. You had to do something funky with the battery to get it to start before so I just yanked the damn thing out. Car starts fine now('cept for the dead batt LOL)

I told you if it works it'll kick!. LOL

vortech305

For one thing the 92' maro is an auto 700 r4, i tried starting it on neutral, and nothing. Our guess its the Viper alarm. The thing that makes me cluess is what the hell is that white thing with a point on it, the connection was attached to the motor, i still can figure out what that is??

Camaro_hunter_d

can you diss the alarm? If so then do it and then check is it starts. It could be that a part of the alarm went bad.

vortech305

any other thoughts??

vortech305

well the alarm has been disengaged, and still nothing works, im getting to the point where im gonna burn the 92' camaro and get a mustang

Camaro_hunter_d

well... what have you not tried? LOL... Have you gone through everything that deals with the starting circuit?. I know its a lon and tedious task but something has to be replaced....

Bird With NoS

when u bought this car how well was it stored maybe the baby is all seized up?? positive and negative on battery to the starter see if it turns over?? damn i dunno