A friend of mine has a Camaro..It's a 2.8 with stock dual snorkel on it..I think he said it was an 86, but I'm not sure.. Anyways, he's a pretty nasty speeder and was sick of his speed limiter chip, so he told me he unplugged the ENTIRE computer control system. Now, in my opinion, he's a total idiot. I'm sure our cars rely pretty heavily on the computer system to get the right fuel/air ratios, good timing, etc. Am I right in thinking he's a moron? Or is there a method to his madness? He also claims to have buried the pedal going down an interstate and had his speedo loop around to like 20 mph.. Now I KNOW he's full of BS there, since our cars could probably only hit 120 or so I'd guess. Plus, his car has a Flowmaster on it and I can whoop him racing, with me running practically all stock. On a race about to 70 mph, I can get far enough ahead of him to cut back and forth in front of him with probably 5 feet of clearance! Ok, this is longer than it has to be...just curious ya guys. Stupid or no?

PS-his car dies very quickly after starting occasionally, and has terrible mileage..he panics and speeds to a station when he's at 1/4 tank!

 

cough, cough, bullcrap, cough

 

I think he's one of those car ego guys that pretend to know a lot but really know pretty much jack. I mean, the car has a computer for a reason..it's MPFI too, not a carb.

 

I bet he is full of so much $h*t its coming out every hole .....I just made a pass at the track guys 10.45 ! ...Then I took out the back left tail light bulb , just the bulb and ran 10 flat My speedometer also looped around twice today ....Ok technical ....How much would a high stall converter bring my 1/4 down , and does a shiftkit help you performance wise ?

How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood ?

Wayne

 

tell him that I, even with all the intake manifolds off so the air has more direct access to the heads have gone 110 with stock everything. I even drained the oil/antifreeze mix like in those slick 50/prolong commercials so the crank wouldn't be bogged down with the added weight of lubricataion.

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Well Wayne,
He could cut a cord of conifer if you gave him a quarter for every cord he cut.

 

I'd say he's a moron... he probably didn't succeed in unplugging the whole system, because you shouldn't even see 100 MPH without the computer. I'd say stock, mid 80's 2.8's run 105-110 in good tune. Maybe he's got really small tires and the speedo is waaay off? LOL I can't help it... ROFLMAO

BTW there are better ways to kick the speed limiter's *** ... AND as for shift kits and high stall converters, they are pretty effective for knocking off 10th's in the 1/4. It's all relative to the times you're laying down on the strip.

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One thing I'll point out here. It absolutly will not run with the computer unplugged. No way, keep dreaming, and cows can fly.

 

Guys, if you unplug the computer the car will not run. Period. It wont even start. The spar is controlled completely by the somputer and so is the fuel. No computer no fuel pump, no kicking on the relay. Bla Bla Bla
This guy has no clue what he is talking about.


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Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

I can attest to the car not running with the computer unplugged. I tried it once to see what would happen. Guess what happened. Absolutely nothing, no injector pulses = no start

Dale

 

hehe ..Good answer bro .

 

He's a total moron, everyone knows the easiset way to bypass the speed-limiter and get more power is to use Motor-Up (if anyone remembers those stupid infomercials). It will also help your suspension and enhance the car's apperiance. Just add it to the oil.
This is just as rediculous as removing the computer, especially since ANY fuel injection system must have a computer to run, no way around it. Do me a favor and b*tch-slap him, do it for me and for everyone who has to listen to crap like that.

 

LOL forgot about the MPFI there... no computer no go...

 

Alright, thanks guys...the general poll is then, not only is he an idiot, but he's a liar too...alriiight. And I will give him a nice slap for that one..one of those slow, harsh ego-sucking slaps.

 

maybe you shoud(sp?) institute monthly beatings.

 

Sounds like a plan to me! Wanna hear something funny? Everytime I race him and whoop him, he has a new excuse! First, it was his transmission...then he got his transmission repaired to fix some pretty nasty slippage. So we raced again, twice..SMOKED HIM. Now he's blaming it on warped headers. Although it's probably with his exhaust.. He has a flowmaster but his pipe is sheared open a few inches before the muffler..gives his car a really funny vibrating sound. I'd say he's losing performance from that, not his freaking headers.

 

wonder what he's ganna do when he runs out of excuses ? run to the bathroom and cry ? ...lol ...Wayne

 

The fuel pump might actually kick on without the computer, due to the "oil pressure safety switch". When the switch senses oil pressure, it bypasses the relay and gives the pump "direct" power. I assume this was meant to keep you from getting killed when merging onto a highway if your relay dies.

But those injectors need something to say "Hey, shoot fuel!"

I have an idea- tell your friend about this great new performance website: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ See if the BS artist tells you that "Hey, I just put Kale Co's [part name] on!"


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)

 

Ha ha Wayne..I don't think he'll run crying. I think he'll just brag about 1 of his 2 other cars, either his glasspacked Pinto or his straight 6 1965 Mustang. Both pretty funny cars. A friend of mine owns a 65 289ci Mustang and says the 6's of that era don't get enough air into the engine and have a nasty stalling/underperforming habit. And his Pinto...well...that's just plain funny. Can you say, MADE OF BONDO??

 

you can create a lot of $hit with bondo!!!!!

 

Ha ha...true...never used the stuff yet. My car's pretty much rust free..except the little specks here and there from where it got keyed or got scratched.. I've got 2 vampire fangs of rust on my hood!

 

hehe . There was a pinto on the side of me one night and I looked at him and was trying not to laugh but I had a smerk on my face and they looked at me and was trying not to laugh .hehe ....My car was all clean and spiffy , then I had a pinto on the side of me .

 

no he isnot an idiot and my 78 celica can also whoop all your a$$es with it's mighty 80hp and damin fast 0-60 time of 15 seconds

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78 Celica? HA! That's pretty good... And hey man, imports can be pretty cool cars as long as they don't get riced out. I haven't seen a good non-riced import lately though..everyone here is ricing them out.. Now, when they put that reverb muffler on a freaking Honda Civic (which I've seen on more than one occasion)...it's just pathetic. I saw a real nice BMW the other day...it had a sweet exhaust tone. It was one of the *****-type mufflers, but it was a really deep tone, so it made the car sound pretty nice. Not like those little Civics flying around trying to look like performance cars. You're just coasting down the street and you hear "bzzzzzzzz" coming up from behind you and getting louder...I HATE that!

 

kalecoauto.com

that is hilarious....
my side is hurting i laughed so hard....
i'm gonna refer all my friends to that site... they have some really nice stuff....
i think i'll order the cross drilled brake lines for my car, I have had some trouble with overheated brakes lately...
i think i better stop before i fall outta my chair.... hahaha

 

And hey, 50% of my car is Bondo! It's good stuff- as long as it's applied correctly (and THIN-ly, Thick bondo doesn't cut it).


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)

 

You mean your car doesn't run these times , I mean if you take out the back left bulb you increase erodynamics and usually run in th high 9's. LOL

No that guy is Full of ****, if you unplug the computer, it goes to crap pretty quick...

 

Well , I was having trouble hooking up .Minus the weight reduction with the tail light bulb out

Anyone having problems with their bulbs in the spoiler going out alot ? I do . And the bulbs are expensive , I pay like 5 bucks a piece for them and you know there little tiny bulbs . Wayne

 

You should check that out, you could be delivering too much power to those bulbs, perhaps another element of the circuit is burnt out? I don't know the wiring for the spoiler bulbs, but short bulb life has to do with the amount of power delivered to the bulb. i.e.

If you are ambitious, go down to Radio Shack with one of those bulbs, identify the resistance of the bulb and wire in a resistor of 1/10th or 1/8th the resistance (or better yet a pot switch you can vary resistance with) in parallel with the bulb (attach one end in front of the bulb to the pos. wire and one end in back of the bulb to the neg. wire)

Buy a variety of resistors to try out... you will dim the bulb, but you could potentially double or triple life of the bulbs.

 

Ha...never blow any bulbs. Although I do blow this one fuse abnormally often. It's a 20 amp fuse that controls the cigarette lighter, dome/interior lights, computer command control, and a dozen other things...controls the most number of items in the whole car than any other fuse. It's annoying...having to get on my knees outside the car, all stretched out underneath the steering column with my fuse diagram laying on the floor. The fuse is normally alright, until I try to plug something into the cigarette lighter..that's what has made it blow twice in the past.