hello, im new to the fourms and im building a 2.8 which i wanna get the most power out of before i boost it, i got pacesetter headers and i made a custom intake, acel 8.8 wires . im wondering what cam people are runnning and gains, i know delta i read makes a decent cheap one, lunatic (think thats it) i heards good and the 260H but just curious before i spend the money whats my best bang for a buck

 

How were you going to boost it and how much boost were you thinking?

Years ago I was planning to run a crane 272 grind and 1.6 rockers on a turbo motor.

 

best bang for the buck is the delta 260-2 cam its ground on a wider lsa for boost over the n/a version

u simply do not have the correct mods for the 272
u need a large turbo
min 3:73 gears
engine setup to turn around 7,500 rpms
stall converter if auto
+ a bunch of other things

 

Yes you have to get valve springs that can handle the lift, machine the spring seat and valve guides down to handle the extra lift.

 

I will agree with project 89.

Delta260 cam is the best bang for 118bucks with the lifter set. Thats what I have and Id recomend it in a hearbeat.

 

Welcome aboard. Don't waste your time with cheap cams only to compliment it later on with an even cheaper turbo. Pacesetter headers aren't/weren't cheap, so you obviously enjoy spending money on your project the right way. Save your money and invest in a quality cam, then later on invest in a somewhat decent turbo charger, not a one hundred and fifty dollar special. The cheap stuff will work, but you always get what you pay for though, always remember that...

 

I agree with streetlethel. You do get what you pay for exspecially with certaint items. But he(newfirebird) didnt say anything about a turbo, just the cam. And when it comes to cams I've never heard of one bad issue from delta ones exspecially on our 60* engines.

I will say that I dont see how a name brand comp cam or other makes that are pricey can be better then deltacams. Deltacams is a good cam at a good price. They'll even grind what ever you want if your going for a radical cam. And believe me I've trolled arround alot on 60* V6 forums..lol

@new firebird.......I've got my paperwork on my lil delta260 griind cam if you want to see it and mabey compare it to other similar ones if you choose to get a cam. Then you can go from there. Let me know and ill link it up for ya. One thing though is do it all if you do the cam. Get fresh valve springs at the very least if not a higher strenght. Get new locks(there cheep so why not), timing chain kit(might as well do if if you can while its apart) and the list goes on. But I will advise you to do as much as you can(depending on you budget$$) while you have it tore down.

 

I always hesitated with Delta Cams because of a lot of the Honda guys complain about them at the track when we get into the start of the second season, they have trouble with their lobes, but then again they are pulling pretty high RPM's on a constant basis. Delta offers incredible deals though in terms of cost, that is for damn sure...

 

I didnt know that about the honda guys but it does make sence exspecially from how high they push the Rpms on those engines. Most of the results I've heard(read up on) are all good but they do come from ppl that are keeping the Rpms under 6-6500 max. Daves about the only person I know that had one that pushed it so high on a regular basis.

The aftermarket is limited though and its roll of the dice I suppose, and the weakness of the cam will definitly show on a high Hp/Rpm set up.

 

You don't have to spend a lot of money to get a great turbo charger.
I bought a used Holset HE351VE off CL for $140. Its a great turbo, with its 85 or 86 mm compressor wheel its a little big for most car applications.
I waited a few months for the perfect HE351VE to come along once I knew that was what I wanted.
Stay away from the cheap made in china T3 and T4 coppies.

 

thank you very much guys, i looked into the delta cam more and actually ordering one tommorrow, i also am getting a set 1.6 roller rockers and new rods and valves, more i read from here more i figured ill do the head stronge enough now while its apart. i wanna build it to handle 8 psi with 10 max but next summer if i can get 6 psi on it ill be happy,

 

If you go with boost in the future then the delta cam will be fine. Boost is addictive so Ill give you the heads up with that...

If you get the 1.6 rockers keep a eye when you put them in the car as they "may lift" so high that the valve cover could cause them to hit the cover. I say may because I've hear both that 1.6 will hit the valve covers and that they wont.

 

dont waste ur money on the 1.6 rockers, have delta grind the cam with .030 more lift and it will be the same as having 1.6 rockers.

 

Will the stock heads and springs be able to handle a 260 grind +.030''?
If I remember right the cast iron heads and factory springs are only good for like .44'' or .45'' lift.

 

they need to be checked to make sure specially if using positive type valve seals and not orings

if they need to be clearanced any machine shop can do it for around 50 bucks
i was able to goto about .485 on my heads before i had to machine them with roller valve springs and comp retainers